Which Western Conf team took them to even 5 games with Klay? Lol. They have no reason to break up that chemistry with multiple years left on his deal, which will be cheaper
Ariza/lou and maybe a pick? sure wth.... swing for the bleachers and all that... Eg, 2 1sts and filler.... for a guy who has said he only wants to go to the Lakers.... and insists on being #13.... and has severely undercut his team by making such declarations... naw.... you just keep your crazy diva chit in Indy - we got enough of our own nonsense already...
So basically we gave up a 1st for Lou on a 1.5 yr deal + we rid ourselves of Brewer's negative contract... but now we're gonna just get a first for Lou as a 1 year rental? Idk man.... seems like the classic overvaluing of assets here... lol
Correct, it's good for us. No benefit at all for him though, so he'll never do it. Moreover, Harden will be a free agent which means his assurances are meaningless if Harden doesn't give assurances. Also unlikely. Put yourself in their shoes. You can sign with any of the 30 teams - why would you bog yourself down with assurances? You can just play hard in 2017-2018 wherever you are. If you're going to get traded to a place you can't tolerate for even a year, then you give an assurance to that team that there is 0% chance you will re-sign, which will make them pay dramatically less, which will kill the deal. He can sign anywhere he wants in 2018. So we can't do the 2nd thing basically, as nice as it would be. In addition, assurances are flimsy, as Mark Cuban recently discovered with DeAndre Jordan. A player can change their mind and nothing can be done about it until they sign something. We're trying to get him on the cheap, sure. But even without an assurance, there are maybe 2 other teams (Cavs and Celts) that would be willing to get into a bidding war with us and only 1 of them have the assets and willingness to beat us in that bidding war. This is an incredibly good position to be in. The difference between what you're seeking and this position is 1 team. Yes that team could knock us out of the picture. So we can't be spending our time trying to penny pinch while this short window is open. We need to give them virtually anything they want minus Harden and Capela. Indiana is not going to give us a courtesy call if they are fed up with our penny pinching tactic and the other team ups their offer a bit. They'll just trade him, and we'll have wasted a golden opportunity. If this is possible, get this man on this team. He is a perfect player for MDA, Morey and Harden. These guys will make waves. So even if it means taking half a season or a year to rebuild that depth, do what's necessary and let's not f*ck around trying to get an assurance from Paul that has practically no chance of happening.
Definitely something in it for George to come here for a year before free agency!! 1. Pace 2. Success Pace and an aggressive scoring system means stats. Stats into free agency are excellent. Although to be fair he could sit out the year and get the max anyway. But endorsements? Success is fun. If he wants out of Indy and wants to build his profile, going somewhere he can be successful is enticing. Asking to be traded to the Rockets is about his 3rd best option? Warriors. Cavs then Rockets. Pace plus success builds profile and he waltzes into LA as the great winning hero and collects bigger endorsements as a result
Doesn't matter, he can get all that without assurances by just not saying he will or won't extend with us. He and his agent know, we would be willing to acquire him as long as he doesn't explicitly say he won't extend. If he really wants all that, he can tell every other suitor that he won't extend and not give us any positive/negative assurance. Same result. Also, keep in mind this is a guy who has allegedly committed to the Lakers one year in advance. Success doesn't seem to be on his priority list in till 2019. And of course, no amount of stats will make him capable of getting more than he can get anyway: the full NBA max a team can offer.
What assurances? All I am saying is that it benefits the rockets for George to request a trade here. If we can get him to do that then we can get him for pennies on the dollar. Would he request a trade here for a 1yr rental? Possibly, for reasons I outlined. I haven't said we need any assurances from him. Why are they part of the conversation? If you can get him at the cost of any three of Bev Ariza Lou Gordon Rhyno you do it. Why not? Swing hard.
He's already made it clear through leaks to woj that he will not help facilitate any trades unless it's to the lakers.
Since George has been with the Pacers 6 years. I believe Bird rights would transfer to the team acquiring him. This may be why he hinted Boston should trade. Houston would give him big numbers. http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ential-big-payday-all-nba-decision/329873001/
I get that. I feel like you're repeating yourself cause my post wasn't as clear as could be. I also didn't understand that you meant that he commits to us for a year only, which imo makes it even more unlikely. 1) We're, by far, not the only team that can offer improved stats. More importantly, George is already well worth more than the maximum, he has no incentive to artificially inflate his stats. 2) George has no leverage in choosing between teams that are willing to rent him out for a year and see what happens. That's entirely up to the Pacers. George can say what he wants, but he will play hard for a year for any contender unless he wants to damage that market value I mentioned in point #1. 3) There is a downside to doing what you're saying, which is that we can waste valuable time trying to pinch pennies on a trade when even the most expensive version of it is worth consummating, and there are at least 2 teams out there in a bidding war with us. Put yourself in George's shoes. You are getting the MAX no matter what, and you would sign with LA in 2018. Why would you demand a trade to a certain team right now when you know that teams who place a high value on 1 year of your production will make offers for you anyway? Why would George prefer Houston over Cleveland when he will be worth the max at the end of it regardless and can choose whichever team you want? I can see that George may personally prefer to join Houston, but that doesn't mean he will demand a trade here, screwing a team that he has a good relationship with.
