Fitz is a first-tier problem. He's not the only problem, but he's up there. Also, I find your defense of mediocre-to-bad QB play hilarious given how you put me on full-blast for defending an above-average-to-good Matt Schaub. Suddenly your stomach for sub-par QB play seems to be a lot stronger. I wonder why?
If the Texans lose to the Steelers, effectively ending their chance at the playoffs, I'd be fine throwing the season away and tanking with Mallett, just not while the season still has some life in it.
I don't want Mallet because I'm convinced he's not better than Fitz, because he's a bad fit for this team (statue behind a bad Oline) and because I don't think he can be a future QB either. I have no problem if they go to Savage at some point. Anyway, here are some posts: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9256313&postcount=617 inching towards "can't get any worse" territory http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9257394&postcount=120 how much worse could Mallet actually be http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9256353&postcount=624 Fitz is reaching "unspeakable territory" so might as well try Mallet (implication: can't be worse) http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9256324&postcount=620 This post implies only worse QBs than Fitz are Gene and EJ Manuel http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9255727&postcount=60 Honestly worse than Fitz? http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9255182&postcount=596 Put Mallet in, might have a shot, no shot with Fitz, none http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9254502&postcount=563 Difficult for Mallet to be worse http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9215172&postcount=541 Mallet will be better than Matt Schaub http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9254302&postcount=30 Need to replace Fitz with Mallet, could he be worse? http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9253362&postcount=618 Fitz is worst QB in franchise history http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9253298&postcount=559 Fitz is worse than Carr http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9245780&postcount=46 Not saying Mallet is a savior but I know he's better than Fitz. Take anyone over Fitz http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9245780&postcount=46 Mallet, or any QB, can't possible be worse than Fitz I only used one search term. I think this is enough.
1. Mallett will get his chance late in the season 2. With 3-4 productive he'll convince the Texan's brass and stupid fans he can be the guy 3. We'll sign him to a "great" contract for an emerging starting NFL QB 4 The QB position will again be ignored in the draft because we have our starting QB on a great contract. 5. The "experts" will pick the Texans as an emerging threat in the AFC, fans will drool. 6. Mallett given the opportunity will **** the bed and SSG will laugh at you all. 7. Bookmark this and come talk to me when it happens.
Ok, how about we try this angle. Could we have won that game with Fitz as the QB and better secondary play? Could we have won that game with Fitz as the QB and a better pass rush? Could we have won that game with Fitz as the QB and better protection? The answer to all 3 of those questions is yes. Fitz wont make anyone better, but he can be good enough for wins. Problem is, you cant have so many other deficiencies on the team. There is too much poor play on the field for one position to overcome it.
Wait what? When did I put you on full blast for defending Schaub? Maybe you have me confused with someone else. I think Schaub played like absolute crap his last year here, but Ive always supported him previously...I thought he regressed greatly and folded under pressure, but Ive always thought he had a few very good seasons here.
We'd have been in an awesome position to win if only Fat Aggie had made the FG and Andre had held on to the damn ball. There's no question that the Fitz of last night was a good enough QB to win with.
Let me also say that if the coach wants to try Mallet, then I'm cool with that too. He sees them all in practice. What I am defending against is the posters on the board who are putting too much blame on Fitz and lack context for how bad a QB can actually be. Had the same issue with Schaub when people trashed him. Fans truly lack context for QB play. Schaub was very good and Fitz is good enough to have won every game but 1.
It really is disheartening. I keep hoping that eventually the fans will get smarter but so far....nothing. I have no problem bashing any guy out on the field, but IMO it should be done so intelligently. I can guarantee that a few of those REALLY down on Fitz and complaining about the last minute fumble would be blaming the LT for not blocking had the exact same thing happened to Teddy Bridgewater. It seems that some just want to complain about Fitz and they'll invent reasons if they aren't provided with legit ones.
Okay, that has nothing to do with my opinion of Schaub...Look up my post history regarding Schaub. Schaub regressed significantly, but he was very good for the Texans, much better than he ever got credit for. As far as Teo, he is a joke and always will be a joke. Same with Armstrong.
I'm convinced but I also admit I can be wrong. It's a nuanced issue. My single biggest fear with Mallet is that he's a statue. This OLine has played terrible this year and a statue behind it would get crushed. What I have been arguing against is fans calling for Mallet when they don't realize that we aren't actually getting horrible QB play and that it can certainly be worse. If BOB thought Mallet was better, he'd be out there.
Well that would be new information wouldn't it? Right now all we can go on is what we've seen from Mallett in preseason the last several years and he's looked bad. If BOB thinks he's better than Fitz, that would be new data to evaluate. As of now, the assumption has to be that BOB does not think Mallett is better than Fitz or he'd be playing.
That's the thing that irks me the most...Fitz has a YPA of 7.93, good for 6th in the NFL after 38% of the season has been played (not a small sample size). I mean, you cant play like crap and have a YPA in that range. It's just not possible with 160 pass attempts.
Mallet is not "horrible," "a bust," "worthless," etc. until he gets some extended playing time, which he never has in the NFL I am for giving him a chance once we are officially out of the playoffs. I still remember his performances while at Arkansas; he performed at a very high level. I think mechanics wise he has to be better than Fitz.
I believe it was Brian T. Smith on 790 this morning who made a good point that right now, no QB is being developed possibly for the future and the Texans have no idea where they are headed with the most important position on the field after this year. The ceiling with Fitz on a team with talent is 7-9 or 8-8. If I'm not mistaken he hasn't lead a team to more than 6 wins. All Fitz is going to get this team is mediocre madness and possibly missing out on top QB. I'm in the camp of seeing what you got in Mallet and/or Savage. If they suck, take a QB with their first draft pick. They are just spinning their wheels with Fitz. Its not productive for the franchise in the long run.
I still don't understand the Texan's selection of Fitzpatrick. I would rather have taken a chance on a rookie or a vet with more upside. Like you, I see no future with Fitz.
with fitzpatrick at qb, the texans are a JJ Watt injury away from going 3-13. hubris among the texans brass is thick. they had a chance at a franchise qb (bridgewater), but clearly they enjoy watching qb's with poor pocket awareness & a penchant for losing.