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Would the Rockets have been 15-7 without D'Antoni?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bandwagon, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    MDA is just like "Oh thank god it's not Dwight, Melo, or Kobe!"
     
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    It was a perfect storm for this season. MDA has an actual offense to implement. Dwight being gone and not being a black hole. Bringing in shooters. And also Bev being Bev again along with Ariza finding his shot again from three point land
     
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    They wouldn't cuz if MDA wasn't here Jeff Bzdelik wouldn't been here either. I think it's the combination of those 2 that has players really excited with the team. Every time you see or read an interview they are always talking about how happy they are with the coaching staff. It's obvious they respect D'antoni offensive genious and game management as well as Jeff's defensive acumen. Other coaches in the running where either not as good offensively as D'antoni or not as good defensively as Bzdelik.
     
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    I tip my hat to coach. And morey .

    No way I thought they would be this good
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    My first thought was no. But we won al ot of games two years ago

    I feel dantoni is more impressive than McHale but I'm going by the eye test
     
  6. Remlap

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    One thing I learned about MDA from a profile vid of him someone posted
    early on just after he signed on, is that he seems to genuinely care about
    his players as well as build relationships with them.
    You can see that with the Bev chest bump. That's the sign of a great relationship
    between coach and player. Vid showed him swapping stories with Harden at a practice
    and laughing together.
    But at the same time, Coach is not hesitant to make the right personnel
    subs when it counts either. Players seem to respect him. Even 'most' former players
    So far, so good Coach. I'm glad to see MDA get a chance to redeem himself and his system
     
  7. Texanasiafan

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    Thumb down for not being a Dmo thread.

    And hugely disappointed for having DD and still no one talked about Dmo in this thread.

    Zero star.
     
  8. thedude077

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    I also think the rest of the coaching staff needs to get credit. John Lucas 2 has been doing a great job, he is developing Clint Capela's game very well. This is such a great coaching staff, a great fit for James Harden, and for the rest of the team. What a great season to be proud to be a Rockets' fan.
     
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    The Rockets could be sitting at 20-3 right now if not for some early season mishaps. The only games we didn't play well in were against Toronto, Utah (road game), and against Atlanta. The rest of the losses were all winnable games where we had the lead and blew it. New team, new coaches, this team will get better as the season continues. D'Antoni has done a hella job so far despite one of the toughest schedules to start. Rockets have played more games on the road than any other NBA team.
     
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  10. bandwagon

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    McHale had a loaded roster though.
     
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    He had a loaded roster and yet he only liked to play the same 8 guys, never gave the young guys any burn. D'Antoni seems to have more confidence in the youngsters which is something McHale never did.
     
  12. RocketsFido

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    Yea, D'antoni likes to play young guys with lots of energy who will play whatever the role the team needs. Dekker and Harrell are perfect examples.
     
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    There's no doubt MDA is the best coach available for this current Houston Rockets. Luke Walton is interesting but he is still young and inexperience. The MDA signing was met with many oppositions from Rockets fans and laughed at by the media. But one of the significant factors behind the MDA signing was the chemistry between Harden and MDA during the 2012 Olympics. The most important thing is the Rockets superstar buys into MDA system and believes in it.

    MDA was a successful NBA coach. His reputation took a big hit during his last two stints in NY and LA. But upon closer inspection, its clear why he was unsuccessful. In NY, he never had the right players to run his system properly. When Melo arrives in New York, the situation for MDA worsen because the Knicks gave up a lot for Melo who does not fit MDA system at all. Melo is an ISO scorer who rather take the tough shot than make an extra pass. In LA, it was also set up for failure. Steve Nash career was basically done by the time he arrived in LA. Kobe also does not fit well into D'Antoni's offense. Like Melo, Kobe will do what he feels is best and does it his way. Dwight Howard would most likely thrive in MDA system but he decides he wants to be a post up player instead and resisted playing the PnR with Nash.

    LA and NY were major failures for MDA simply because he did not have the right players to buy into his system. MDA has been in the NBA for over a decade and he gained some major experiences along the way. In Houston, he finally has a superstar that can run his offense, believes in him, and the who team buying into his system.

    All the other coaches such as Tom Thibodeau or JVG are good coaches that specializes in tough defense but lack any creativity offensively. None of those coaches have an efficient offensive system. The last thing Houston needs is another coach that does not know how to utilized the team's superstar talent. Though the Rockets defense is not the best, having a more efficient and better offense will always improve the defense because it gives the team time to run back and set up on defense.
     
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    ...remember it was Dantoni coaching him in NY that made him seem better than he was. People tend to forget that Dantoni turned a pretty sad NY roster into an exciting team for a few months before the weight of that franchise's dysfunction came crashing down
     
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    This is all true and I'll add that credit goes to Morey for recognizing that instead of improving on what Harden is weak at(defense) and surrounding him with a coach and players who try to lessen his defensive impact, Morey instead decided
    the team would be better served amplifying what Harden is elite at and surrounded him with shooters and the best possible coach to take advantage of the best parts of Hardens game. That point can't be understated - Dantoni was brought in over Thibs, JVG, etc because Morey had what is looking like a solid game plan for what to do with his star.
     
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    While having a superstar doing it all has been successful throughout the years if you take a look at the Cavaliers with Young Lebron who has done it all, he always had his trouble against the Duncan led Spurs, better executing team based groups or just elite defense.

    What we have now is essentially a slightly worse GSW team where Harden can produce for 2, almost 3 superstars, he has been that productive.

    The danger here is that he cannot sustain this kind of production for more than 1 season or maybe even 2, that he might regress getting older.

    The 3 star system with good enough role players essentially guarantees you extended time at greatness, consecutive and constant playoff success, being in the Finals every year or almost every year.

    All in all, Morey and Les have done things well with what they have and that is Harden.

    One player can only take you so far, and they knew it for years now that with the system working, one or two stars are still necessary to get to the Top of Mount Olympus.
     
  17. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    Is MDA the best offensive coach in the league again? Offense is humming, although I wouldn't even put us in the top 5 offensively talented rosters. Scoring after timeouts is excellent. Making Harden the PG is a tiny change which has yielded serious dividends - Harden clearly feels more responsible about sharing the ball and respecting his teammates' ability to compete.

    Really good case can be made about this.
     
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    We must thank Uncle Le$ for taking the coaching decisions out of Maury and making it himself. Maury has been known to get rid of good coaches like Adelman and hire shitty ones like McFail and BJ Brewerstaff

    Question should be: would The Rockets be 16-7 without Les hiring Mike Anthony?
     
  20. clos4life

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    He is much better than I thought he would be. I wanted JVG but watching this team so far has been eye opening. Seems like getting rid of the mustache brought back his mojo.
     

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