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[WOJ] Rockets Pursuing Deals with Trade Exception

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CJLarson, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. bulkatron

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    I don't see Bass as an upgrade to D Mo anymore, and I think Rondo is less of an upgrade over this year's Bev than last. We have issues with depth and could use a stretch 4, but Harden's amazing playmaking makes a player like Rondo less essential. With the growing chemistry of this group, I think you either make a move to bolster depth or make a big time move at the 4.
     
  2. MONON

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    You left out: Black, Dmo, TJ, Garcia, Beverly & Papa. All are shooting > 70% this year. Also, Papa's the only one of the group shooting between 65 & 70%. That's not good when you're trying to protect a lead. Someone else has already asked if we were trying to acquire the worst ft shooting team in NBA history by trying to get Rondo.
     
  3. Corrosion

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    Sure , but having multiple poor FT shooters gives them options and allows them to deny the ball to those better shooters more effectively ...

    What about FT shooting in normal situations (not hacka???). Adding Rondo to an already poor shooting roster just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

    Current season stats -

    PatBev - 54.2%
    Black - 48%
    Dorsey - 21.1%
    Howard - 46.3%
    DMo - 64.8%
    TJones - 75%
    KPap - 66.7%
    Rondo - 33.3%

    These numbers are one reason teams are able to be very physical with the Rockets and get away with it .... They can afford to play aggressively without being concerned about fouls for pretty much the entire game - Unless its Harden , Terry or Johnson who all shoot better than 80%.
     
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  4. larsv8

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    Look closer friend, I think you can figure it out.

    (Hint - Harden isn't playing all his minutes at SG)

    How old do you think Bass and Rondo are exactly?

    Both are 29....
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Agreed, if we pick up Rondo, our FT shooting will be comically terrible outside of Harden
     
  6. MONON

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    But they can foul them every 20 seconds. Offensively speaking that equates to a "stop" every 20 seconds for the opposition.
     
  7. tmacfor35

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  8. Mr. Dominant

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    Dragic, Rondo... just want one of those.
     
  9. Raven

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    Suns are stuck in NBA purgatory. The Rockets spent several years there until Morey reeled in Harden. The key is assets. Perhaps Phoenix is thinking the same thing? They certainly have assets, a lot of them. They are probably hoping to trade for a player with upside, someone who has shown flashes of greatness, when given minutes, but is stuck on the bench unable to showcase their potential. Gee, do we have anyone on our team like that? Someone seven feet tall? And that's the holdup, I bet. The Suns might be willing to send us Dragic for the NO pick and D-Mo, and Morey isn't having any of it. Seems plausible.
     
  10. tzou88

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    They want a star, let's give them a star. DMO for Dragic and pieces.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    Think playoffs

    Rondo
    Harden
    Jeff green
    Dmo
    Howard
     
  12. Corrosion

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    I'd give them the NO pick in a split second .... But at this point , DMo is almost untradeable , just an essential part of this teams success , this year and going forward.

    Basically you'd be plugging one hole & opening up a bigger one. Besides Howard & DMo they really don't have "NBA Quality" bigs .... despite the surprising play from Black.
    Harden , Howard , DMo , Ariza , PatBev I wont move this season , KPap & Terry I'd only move if I'm getting a spectacular return.

    Just my opinion ....
     
  13. Corrosion

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    Then you have Howard & Black as your starting bigs .... with Dorsey backing them up.

    No .... 43.4% combined FT shooting and no one with a "reliable" post game .... Doesn't sound like a team with championship aspirations to me.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    Never trade a big for a small
     
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    Agree, I would not trade DMo unless we are getting someone like Bosh or LMA in return. Besides, as much as Harden is the playmaker on this team, I just don't think bringing in a PG like Rondo or Dragic makes sense unless you get a real bargain for them which I do not see happening. No way do you create another hole by trading someone like DMo.
     
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    What is Boston looking for in return? 1st? Player(s)? Position? If we can get away with the NOLA first, then why not Rondo to PHX, Dragon to HOU and 1st and fillers to BOS?

    Getting Rondo or even Dragic seem like pipe dreams and luxury gets IMO, but if the price is right ....
     
  17. tmacfor35

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    Ainge is running out of leverage every second.

    He will need to unload Rondo on someone.

    And Danny will never get better value then he will right now.
     
  18. dachuda86

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    rondo for assets
     
  19. JuckTheFazz!

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    rondo and bass for asik, parsons, lin
     
  20. dachuda86

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    Rondo and Harden seems like a bad idea... harden is a playmaker and so is rondo... so I feel like they might clash too much. Plus I'd rather have a shooter next to harden to space the floor. This trade would take our depth and hurt our offense.
     

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