Why White People Freak Out When They're Called Out About Race

Well, I think she's wasting her time but if she can make a buck out of it... I'm not mad at her.

Oh yea... The trillions and trillions of tax dollars that has been sunk into the space program is benefiting American citizens immensely :grin:

Oh snap. There goes the black Ph.D inflation numbers

 

Well if it prevents a giant meteorite from crashing and ending the world. That's a big help to be honest.

 

Oh, I dunno. If we're going to have an honest discussion about race relations, maybe we shouldn't paint with so broad a brush. Perhaps we should look at the fact that human beings tend to think that whatever they are is better than what other people are. Be it white, black, Houstonian, Rockets fan, Styx fan, 1999er, whatever. I don't think terms like white fragility, white guilt, white privelege really help matters. People get defensive when they're called racist? Go figure. I'm all for self reflection when it comes to attitudes towards other races, but not just for white people.

 

I knew this individual professor was white; that doesn't negate my thesis about the initial desire to inflate black faculty numbers when the programs were initially created out of protest. Don't pretend you have more insight or interest in black studies than beyond the extent this self-pitying article gives you an opportunity to take a jab at Caucasians.

 

The value of her research can be judged by it's relevance or utility, if the "only people" who can recognize it's value are her or her professors than it's worthless or self-serving. If the by-product of that research is patronizing, polemicist garbage like "white people freaking out" than the scrutiny and judgement is warranted. "Disliking" a field of study, like eugenics or phrenology, is a completely valid and substantive exercise if it's non-academic bias and motives can be gauged from a mile away. Attempting to validate it by equating it to or diminishing a technologically, culturally and scientifically critical field like astronomy is strikingly more "ignorant."

 

Racial fragility comes in all shapes and colors

 

This kind of makes you seem to have racial fragility on the topic.

 

No, it isn't. If it makes her more educated, and better able to discern legitimate from illegitimate research, then it has a value to her.

I will say that you have no idea what was required for her to achieve her Phd. So you don't know.

The article was a good article, and it makes sense. If she can show research and back it up then it serves value. If white folks having fragility on racial issues is a societal phenomenon and she sines a light on it, then it serves a purpose.

Either way the fact that person has undertaken the education necessary to receive a Phd no matter what field it's in, shows has helped make a better educated person. Better educated people help our society.

You can sit back and from your uninformed perspective try and cast a judgment on that degree, but perspective is at the very least uninformed.

 

You said it, brother.

 

Her book 'Is Everyone Really Equal?' received the 2012*Critics Choice Book Award from the*American Educational Studies Association*for outstanding contribution to scholarship in the Social Foundations of Education field. She's also an associate professor and she's won the Student's Choice Award for Educator of the Year ---> twice... And she has a list of other endeavors as well. And most importantly she's able to make a living in the career path with that degree, and she's probably making more money than a astronomer and the people on this board bytchin about her degree while making a direct impact on society.

There are plenty of astronomers out there staring off into space but not enough people like her... Which makes her more valuable to society IMO.

 

Race relations is pretty complex. Factor in gender and the sexualization of race in the media and it's a big mess anyone can cherry pick from.

She might have simplified her views for the interview.

I don't think everyone is racist at birth. It's more taught than innate. We're tribalistic in nature and that predates race. There's a lot of cultural baggage that falls in between that is unseen or unacknowledged and that's part of the problem. Solving it isn't easy because it's that very same spirit of tribalism that serves as glue for society and complex organizations.

 

It should be pointed out that her PhD is in education and the sub field is multicultural education. So her degree does have practical application because that degree will lead to jobs in academic administration and there will be some demand. It is essentially an advanced vocational degree.

 

Although he does not want to admit it, Rocket River has finally reached BigTexxx level with this thread. Congrats!!

 

Uh, yeah it actually is. The list of spin off technologies is humongous.

If you spend 5 minutes with Google doing a little research you might learn something. Velcro, tang, blah, blah... The number of inventions directly attributable to NASA research is huge.

This is in addition to the fact that NASA was really getting funding because they were doing missile research, which prevented the USSR from trying to start a "winnable" nuclear war.

 

Race relations are complex and racism is real. The idea that blacks can't be racist is silly, but the fact remains that blacks aren't empowered to discriminate against whites.

You don't have black judges incarcerating white kids at an alarming rate. You don't see black cops beating white honor students for trying to use a fake idea. (Yes a white cop did this recently to a black honor student at UVA). White cops don't treat blacks suspects the same way as white ones - and that is the problem here. It's not about black people not being able to say racist things, it's about people paying an unfair price because of their race, and whites really don't experience that in the same degree or way at all as blacks. What is so hard to understand here?

This is the problem that people like bigtexxx want to put their head in the sand about. They equivalate discrimination against blacks as the same thing as a black celeb saying white people suck. It's ridiculous.

 

actually you're oversimplifying people way too much. You act as if whites and blacks each act in some monolith unison fashion. It's much more nuanced than that.

As I've long stated, we must eradicate all racism. Dr King said it best -- judge a man by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.

 

Smart dude. The more I learn about him, the more I'm amaze about him. He was working on poverty before his death. Eliminating poverty more than racism seems to be what he thought was the key to a better society.

 

you can never get rid of poverty. to improve racism you need a lot more blacks in the rich areas because right now it's just rappers and athletes. we also can't get too many blacks in one area because they are toxic to one another. instead we need to keep each neighborhood a mix of white, black, yellow, brown, etc. diversity and better education is the key to ending racism because when you have people of all colors at the top, middle, and bottom, you know society ain't rigged.