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Why is he considered the best ever?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by primtim24, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. primtim24

    primtim24 Contributing Member

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    I'm not arguing for anyone else to be the "GOAT"...(this is becoming comical) I'm just posing a "there is no wrong answer" kind of question and asking why do YOU think he was the best ever.
     
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    On just his skillset there was nothing you could do to stop Michael. His game had no weakness. Combine his skills, mindset, work ethic with his freak of nature athletic abilities and you have the GOAT.
     
  3. MD_in_Training

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    Damn, I haven't seen MJ highlights in awhile, but this right here makes those Kobe Bryant Clinic mixes look like a middle school pick up game.
     
  4. MD_in_Training

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    Yeah, and my point is that statistics back his GOAT status up. He may not have been #1 in each category, but he's on there consistently and there's no one else statistically that can be considered over MJ.
     
  5. ACL1

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    this!
     
  6. Jontro

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    because nothing rhymes with Lebron.
     
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    He's the GOAT b/c of the TOTALITY of his individual and team accomplishments, and what he did off the court for the game of basketball.

    I don't see anybody ever eclipsing MJ as the GOAT. He set the bar way too high.
     
  8. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    List of NBA teams that won the championship without an allstar big (PF or C)

    Can't count '99 Spurs because of the lockout (no allstar game)

    All 6 Jordan championships
    '89 Pistons - Isiah Thomas
    '75 Warriors - Rick Barry
    '51 Royals
     
  9. The Hunted

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    Rodman? Grant?
     
  10. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    They weren't allstars in the years he won.
     
  11. amaru

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    If that is the new benchmark for the G.O.A.T then it goes to Yao Ming. He introduced NBA basketball to over 1 billion people.
     
  12. ashishduh

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    Umm, he's the leading scorer in NBA history, in terms of PPG.
     
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    A couple more stats:

    #1 in career PER(regular season and playoffs)
    #1 in career playoff points(total and average)
     
  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    the reason why you can't just present numbers without a context is why you are wrong OP. Its not that hard to comprehend.
     
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    Comparing anyone's season ppg to Wilt's one season in the 60's as an argument

    Bringing up all star appearances? wtf

    Bringing up Lebron in the discussion at all while talking about GOATS

    Definitely not a troll thread
     
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    Hard to argue against MJ, though I'd still pick Magic first.
     
  17. rockettes

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    nobody cared about the nba in the 60s
    and there were only 9 teams
    those celtics championships in the 60s were easier than the championships won from the 80s and onwards
     
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    numbers don't matter at all, if you watched him play you know he's unmatched as the GOAT
     
  19. primtim24

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    I see we have another person who didn't read the post, they only read the title. I AM NOT MAKING AN ARGUMENT for why he ISN"T the GOAT. I am merely asking the question "Why is he the greatest of all time to you?"
     
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    I agree, I think just the way he approached every single Regular season game, All-Star game, and playoff game make him the GOAT.

    It kind of reminds me of Jerry Rice in terms of the work ethic, the competiveness, and the desire he had to be perfect.
     

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