1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Why do the Rockets let Dwight flick his free throws?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tuk88, Jan 22, 2014.

Tags:
  1. Tuk88

    Tuk88 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    229
    One last thing. Conditioning is the only way you learn something fundamentally to the point mental distractions don't affect you. It's why a teen can text and talk at the same time, or a player can play video games all night. Nothing can distract you. Conditioning is a much more repetitive and specific form of practice, and since Dwight is so strong, shooting the equivalent of balloons is poor conditioning. He needs to do the basketball equivalent of one of the most fundamental conditioning throws in baseball, the long toss. Whether that means practicing from beyond the three point line or shooting bowling balls, flicking the equivalent of a balloon 200 times in practice ain't conditioning. It's at least part of the reason why shooting free throws is so second nature for many good three point shooters, and why so many bigs struggle with it - conditioning.
     
    #21 Tuk88, Jan 23, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2014
  2. Oracle

    Oracle Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2013
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    18
    IMHO it is a mental issue. Dwight is actually a very good shooter. He can shoot the 3 ball without problems. The difference is that in a game situation you don't have enough time to think. On the line he feels the audience. Actually I don't care. If his every trip to the line results in one bucket, the team is doing good. It is representative of 50% 2pt field goal shooting (without a possibility of a TO). Hacking Dwight is a serious miscalculation by the opposing team. I'm not worried at all.
     
  3. Tuk88

    Tuk88 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    229
    It makes a huge difference in a close game in the final minute or two if you have to take your best defender out.
     
  4. Codman

    Codman Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,765
    Likes Received:
    11,710
    Uh...Yao had good free throw form?

    The way Yao held the ball when he shot at the free throw line wasn't exactly conventional.

    Marcus Camby...now that dude has some weird form, but it works.
     
  5. Tuk88

    Tuk88 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    229
    If Dwight shot 3 pointers on his own time, I assure you his free throw shooting would improve. He'd also get a lot of flack with, "What are you doing shooting three pointers? You need to be practicing your free throws!"

    Yeah, he's conditioning to shoot free throws, just like baseball players long toss to warm up. If he spent more of his off time and off season shooting three pointers, I'm sure his FT % would rise dramatically.

    His sugar addiction doesn't help with the mental aspect and 'too strong/too much energy for is own good' issue either - he needs much less of that when shooting/conditioning :) Add in game adrenalin and his shots are bullets coming out of his hand. Anyway, I digress.
     
    #25 Tuk88, Jan 23, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2014
  6. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,283
    Likes Received:
    24,257
    We know for a fact Dwight's strength isn't an issue.

    Why? Because supposedly, he's awesome in practice.

    It's all in his head.

    He does seem to flick the ball.

    His form likely changes between practice and games due to being a head case.
     
  7. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,283
    Likes Received:
    24,257
    Very true.

    Yao's form wasn't fluid or conventional, but it worked.
     
  8. Tuk88

    Tuk88 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    229
  9. Tuk88

    Tuk88 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    229
    Btw, if you want a real test of how well someone shoots free throws in practice, count the % only for the first two shots, because none of the other ones matter. IOW, in a game, you don't get 50 consecutive shots to warm up. You can even see that between the first and second free throw in a game, that first one acts as a warm up. This is why measuring the % of 100 consecutive free throws in practice is incredibly misleading.
     
  10. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,283
    Likes Received:
    24,257
    Almost every player shoots better in practice, but there's a larger discrepancy for Dwight. There was a thread about it earlier this season. It was from his Laker days. Most the players had 10-20% difference awhile Dwight had 40%. He clearly has something going on upstairs.
     
  11. c1utchfan925

    c1utchfan925 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,942
    Likes Received:
    323
    People speculate about Dwight having a go to move offensively and what not but personally if Dwight really wanted to improve he would look to increasing his FT%. He could hire the Red Rowdies or whatever and attempt to mimic game time situations. That being said when he's got it going, he definitely looks a lot more focused and more confident.

    Maybe he should shoot like Pau Gasol and barely use his guiding hand at all. Imagine if Dwight could improve his FT% like Asik did..
     
  12. makio9

    makio9 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2013
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    9
    The glide takes place when you shoot through your body and not just from your arms or wrist. The flick comes just from the wrist or the arm.

    When a player is so big as Dwight Howard is, the muscle memory factory can be a tricky one when shooting the way somebody like Aaron Brooks does for example. At the end of the day, his shot needs changing, but it's about finding what works more than fundamentals because fundamentals get thrown out the window at that size.
     
  13. Metropolis777

    Metropolis777 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2010
    Messages:
    278
    Likes Received:
    15
    He needs to start playing a lot of beer pong. That will teach him to develop that wrist flick even more and do it under pressure circumstances (especially if they're betting on it).

    I'm not joking. In college, a lot of the basketball players started playing beer pong with us at the fraternity house and their shots started to fall a lot more because of the muscle memory in the wrist flick follow through and the pressure they were under having a 100 frat guys yelling in their face as they threw the ping pong ball.
     
  14. makio9

    makio9 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2013
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    9
    It's so much the height, but the strength too. It's like you preaching fundamentals when shooting a pea into a cup.
     
  15. OnebyOne

    OnebyOne Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2014
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Never understood about this problem in the NBA. You get paid millions and you can't spend some of that to fix your weakness???
     
  16. iJHolmes

    iJHolmes Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,437
    Likes Received:
    323
    i'm confused, is OP saying the rockets should control how a player decides to shoot his own shots?
     
  17. Akkuron

    Akkuron Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2013
    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    51
    The "hands too big" thing is such a crock. It's all about form and muscle memory. Sports Science put Hulk gloves on Vujacic and he still went 8/10 while blindfolded.
     
  18. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,283
    Likes Received:
    24,257
    Agreed. Hand size and arm strength are physical characteristics that don't change between practice and games. Theoretically, IF these characteristics truly restricted a player, they would almost NEVER be able to shoot well regardless of variables such as game or practice.
     
  19. jocar

    jocar Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2007
    Messages:
    4,869
    Likes Received:
    614
    Wrong

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/7PbRZ5QMAs0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  20. topfive

    topfive CF OG

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    19,031
    Likes Received:
    37,419
    I disagree completely. Good FT shooters don't "guide" the ball in; they concentrate on their mechanics instead. Just find a motion that works, then repeat it every time. No guiding necessary. Dwight shoots 80% in practice, then gets in the game and focuses less on mechanics and more on whether or not he'll make the shot.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now