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Whose Fault is it that Diabetics Don't Buy Insulin from Wal-Mart

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The long acting Novolin is also prescribed twice a day same dosage

    I started on Lantus and moved to Novolin
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    That's kind of pgab's thing.
     
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    Hyperglycemia is not an immediate danger. Hypoglycemia however is. That’s why one of the first things you do is a finger stick glucose on someone that’s unresponsive/comatose.

    I’m not going to get into this with you man, but I’ll leave it at you really need to do your hw.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I know the difference between high and low blood sugar.

    I know fast acting insulin can cause very low levels which can be dangerous.

    That veing said the only differences in the fast acting insulin brands is the speed at which they start performing
     
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    Because long-lasting insulin is released over time. If I give myself 30 units of long-lasting insulin those 30 units don't all go in at once. Throughout the day a little bit at a time is released and absorbed. If I give myself 30 units of short-acting Humalog, I'm not going to live. That insulin is all released at once.

    For a meal with a huge amount of carbs such as breakfast of Pancakes with syrup and butter, eggs, toast with butter, potatoes, and orange juice, I will maybe give myself 12 units of short-acting insulin. If I gave myself 30 units at one time like is done with long-lasting insulin and that's not even with a meal, then I am going to die unless someone calls 911 and they get there fast enough to save me.

    There are also differences in the short term insulin that you use. For instance, the insulin used in pumps is not the same short term insulin that is used in people who take the injections.
     
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    I know the difference between long and short acting

    I know you dont take as much short as you do long. Stop talking to me like i dont have diabetes.

    Now answer the question specifically. Besides speed what differences in fast acting would result in someone not being able to take one brand as opposed to another?
     
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    I'm talking to you the way the things you've posted call for.

    You posted nonsense about all insulins do the same thing and I responded.

    You then asked why it makes a difference if you took the same doses of different insulin medicines. I responded.

    Stop asking questions and then getting bothered when your questions are answered.
     
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    Im talking about brands which i made clear.

    You started the diatribe about fast and long acting

    Wal-Mart sells Novolin. The fast acting or long acting.

    What about Novolin would prevent someone from using it and have to go pay $75 more for another brand?
     
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    Why couldn't the US government build an insulin plant in Detroit and sell it at cost?
     
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    In all seriousness why would a product thats been around as long as insulin cost so much.

    Pharmaceuticals start off expensive because some can take so many year to research and develop without making money till the process of development and approval is done. Some take over thirty years.

    Insulin has obviously paid off its r&d costs and is a standard product.
     
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    The Walton family could build an insulin plant in Detroit and sell it at cost.
    Every other generic drug people need too.
     
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    Looks like somebody needed attention today.
     
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    Because Novolin doesn't work the same as Humalog and Novalog which both work about the same as each other.
     
  14. bobrek

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    So...to your original question.....

    Have you asked your doctor or pharmacist or insurance this question? It would be interesting to hear their perspective. I have a handful of folks I am close to that need insulin, so I’ll ask if they have heard about it.
     
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    What are the differenxes specifically?
     
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    I haven't been to a doctor recently but if i remember next time ill ask
     
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    I assume you are getting it from Walmart? Out of curiosity, is the $25 a flat price or a co-pay?
     
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    Flat price.
     
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    Poor uninsured Americans, or the many who cannot afford the expensive copays of their insurance/ACA should be able to buy reasonably priced insulin beyond the most basic.

    As far as the fault for diabetics not knowing they can buy the basic without a prescription at WMart etc. , as usual when you have healthcare for profit healthcare involved it is tough to blame the culprit, whether the doctors, the drug companies, insurance companies . and all the other parts of the system that make money off diabetics.
     
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    The point of my post is why doesn't anyone know anything about this.

    Wal-Mart made a concerted effort to reduce all diabetes supply prices four years ago. The only reason i know is my mother is a very informed retirrd health professional.

    Wal-Mart doesn't do any advertising on the low cost diabetic supplies. Its weird. I linked it to Obamacare because information on prices, albeit procedure costs for the same procedure at different hospitals is an important prerogative of the ACA.
     

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