What's really the downside to having a new, young coach?

We are toooo classy to tank. I think David Stern will soon take out the percentage lottery and we will be golden.

 

i am completely against intentional tanking. but sometimes, it's nature to lose games to the point you win the lottery if your team and your coach are bad enough.

 

Link? I'd really like to see the context of that. Because, honestly, I don't believe it. And, I think the Rockets have been blessed with good coaches for awhile and you may underestimate the damage of casting about for a good coach season after season. It's not so easy to just go get a good coach whenever you want. If it was, a lot more teams in this league would be off the coaching carousel.

But, if it is true, what's the upside of getting a new coach? Why not just keep Adelman if the coach doesn't make a big difference anyway? Does Morey just want someone to play the Yes Man?

 

morey seems to have a bit of a problem understanding the line between finding players and how much more different it is to coach them and utilize them in a positive manner.

 

Are you serious? The Rockets will be the worse team in the league with a young coach. We already don't have enough talent, and sucking for the next ten years is enough "downside" for me

 

Yao delivered $$$$, which is even better than a championship.
Francis delivered both Yao and TMAC.

Even Kawme Brown delivered Pau Gasol to Lakers.

High lottery picks are golden. Hopefully, Thabeet could deliver something good for us.

 

Your right. Morey wants a coach who he can control. Why else could he not see "eye to eye" with a great coach like Adelman. Morey's setting this franchise back and Les won't realize this until win 25 games next season

 

First of all, if an employee, no matter how good, is acting counter to management's vision for the company, there's a problem.

Second, I think you have it backwards. RA has complained over and over about the trades Morey's made. It's my understanding that the friction comes from RA wanting more of a hand in personnel decisions

Third, with or without RA, our win total won't sniff the 20's next year unless we suffer catastrophic injuries. The Rockets still aren't a contender, but I'd be surprised if they missed the playoffs

 

Introducing your new young coach!

 

The "tanking will kill our players value!!!" argument is really overrated. It may hurt their value a bit, but it's far from damaging.

 

Morey has said that a good coach can get you five extra wins and a bad coach can get you five extra losses.

Doesn't seem like he values coaching very much, relatively speaking.

 

If tanking is done by only playing offense but no defense, tanking will actually boost the value of the players.

 

I thought about this as well, though I wouldn't say this means Morey doesn't value coaching (as much). Ten wins make a big difference.

I also think Morey's assessment is pretty realistic.

Rockets with Vinny Del Negro: 33-49 (-10)
Clippers with Adelman: 42-40 (+10)

Rockets with Avery Johnson 38-44 (-5)
Nets with Adelman: 29-53 (+5)

Seems about right, no?

In case anybody's wondering, here's the transcript of the interview Commodore is referring to:

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Q: You've got a 45 win team. Can you really be a 50 win team, just by the virtue of having a coach who's just sharper than the other guys?

A: 45 to 50 is really tough. I think if you factor in everything a coach does, the I think yes, that's the case.
Just on tactics, I'm not sure you can get a five win improvement. I think you can get a five win improvement at a lower level, like you can go from 25 to 30 wins with better tactics, but I do think if you factor in everything a coach does, like take a Greg Popovic or our own coach, if you look at their ability to manage personalities, their ability to inspire players, I do think if you factor in the totality of all that's contributed, I do think a coach can make a difference in the 45 to 50 win range.
I don't think a coach can make a difference like 60 to 65 for example. I think as you get higher up on the win curve, I think the difference a coach can make becomes more limited. It's just gets harder and harder to get that extra marginal win as you get higher up on the win curve.

 

It hasn't really boosted the value of many Golden State Warriors outside of their best two players, Monta and Curry. The Rockets still paid top dollar to acquire Courtney Lee and Terrence Williams, despite them having the worst record in the league. I think the whole "bad record = bad assets value!!" argument is something Morey's mentioned in the past that people now cling to as gospel. I think it's certainly a factor, but far from being damaging to player's value.

 

What happens if we hire A CAT to coach the Rockets?

Absolute best case scenario: he coaches as well as or better than Adelman
Absolute worst case scenario: Rockets get to tank etc.

 

1) First of all, if that same employee went over & beyond expectations for that company and yet the company is still unhappy, then it's not on the employee.

2) RA'S job was too win ball games. If the GM's main objective is collecting assets over making the playoffs then I'd complain like RA too

 

What's really the downside to having a new GM?

 

1) First of all, if that same employee went over & beyond expectations for that company and yet the company is still unhappy, then it's not on the employee.

2) RA'S job was too win ball games. If the GM's main objective is collecting assets over making the playoffs then I'd complain like RA too

3) We have the least talented roster in the NBA. Bringing in a new coach only means the Rockets aren't tryna win anytime soon. Translation: WE WILL SUCK FOR A VERY LONG TIME without a coach RA'S caliber

 

Adjusting to a new system however these players are professionals so They should be just fine.