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What to do with Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by solid, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. parmesh

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    Quite a statement there, and absolutely no proof to even hope to back it up.
     
  2. Garner

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    Really? Do you actually watch the games or just stop by to chat?
     
  3. brian_chapman

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    if Landry is going to ask for 14 million then lets go after Amare. But seriously I think Landry will get no more than 10 million. Yao will feel so disrespected if you offer him anything less than max I believe he might run to the Lakers so he can get more "commercial appeal" or whatever it is that players goto la for.

    But after Ive spoke to fans of other teams they believe it or not dont want yao. They think of him as Tmac. They think "he is done". The only way a Gm offers him 10mil+ is for the China money effect. Teams are really scared of handing him close to max when he gets injured so much. Now, if he comes back next year the way he played last year, I bet we are forced to offer him max. Someone look up the contract Raef Lafrentz has. Something like 10 mil and he blows.
     
  4. rn_xw

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    Actually I think the Rockets have a sign and trade option with Yao. Lots of teams would be looking to take him for revenue generation(and individual shoe contracts), while Rockets could receive some quality young talents, draft picks, and cap space, like TEs.
     
  5. bingfei236

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    The way i see you more foolish

    worth or not, if yao decide to stay in houston, money got to be over 15mil and no less than 5yeas
     
  6. bingfei236

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    You sound like the other NBA teams are fool.
     
  7. TechieOne

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    Depending on how he plays when he comes back right? There's no guarantee he'll come back and be the same player.

    If he's the same player then 13-17 mil would sound right for me. NBA is still all about business so I really don't think it'll be dropping more than 10-15% of max if he's healthy.

    Remember the motto, the more you make the more you spend. What may seem like a lifetime worth of money to us may only be a couple years worth @ their spend rate (ie he's funding his hometown bball team that is probably losing money and probably many other endeavors.).
     
  8. VBG

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    Get rid of Yao. He's failed as much as T-Mac has.
     
  9. roslolian

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    Even if he comes back healthy no way he gets more than 14 million a year. No one will bet on Yao Ming as a max player anymore. Think about it, the salary cap will be shrinking to around 55 million, you want a third of that on a player who was injured last 4 of 5 years? No one is crazy enough to do that, even teams like the Wiz. Its not about whether he's healthy NOW, its about whether he'll still be healthy later on. Its too big of a risk esp. when he's just one year removed from injury.
     
  10. heyangw

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    If Yao comes back healthy, 14 mil is a reasonable number for him. But I bet many teams will bet on him with a larger contract, though may not be the MAX. Let us wait and see.

     
  11. juicystream

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    Yao is a huge problem. The Rockets have to re-sign him because of his marketing value, but signing him to a big deal hurts the teams flexibility, and I don't think he can lead a team to the title. I think he has to be the 2nd or 3rd option, rather than the first.
     
  12. T_Man

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    Dude!!!!!

    It's POOF!!! POOF!! Pass..

    Not POOF!!! POOF!!! Keep...
     
  13. Milos

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    The problem with bringing Yao back is not only the money he will command, but the considerable money that must be invested in his backup.
    It is a given that as he gets older he will only become more brittle and unreliable.
    With the money he would get, he couldn't be anything other than the 1st or 2nd option for this team, whoever his teammates are, due to the cap-forced salary structure of the NBA.
    So when he goes down, the Rockets have the rare (and unenviable) problem of needing to have a quality player as the backup for one of their 2 best players.
    Most good teams' worst backup is the guy who comes in for their star.
    Most fans don't even know who Kobe's backup is, or LeBron's, because they rarely play and those teams aren't dumb enough to sink substantial money into a guy who never plays.
    The Rockets are in the opposite position, where they have to plan for the long stretches of the season when Yao will inevitably miss games.
    So they have to pay him like a superstar and pay starter money to have a reliable backup so the entire team doesn't collapse when he is out.

    Add it all up and I don't see how this team can move forward with Yao as one of its cornerstones after the upcoming season.
    They will be paying too much to the center position to add significant players around him, yet he has not shown that he can even stay on the court for a whole season recently, much less the entire postseason.
     
  14. Milos

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    Landry at his best could be David West, no more no less.
    Brooks could be Tony Parker.
    Lowry, Budinger, Ariza and Battier are nice role players, nothing more.

    A team built around Yao, West and Parker would contend for a 7-8 seed, and lose in the first round just about every year.

    The Rockets need thier centerpiece, and none of the players on the roster fit the bill.

    Until they find him, I'm not sure much else matters.
     
  15. LosPollosHermanos

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    What the hell kind of logic is that, so even if he's not worth it we have to throw money at him?

    We don't have money to throw away dude, and if we did that we would be left with the squad present for eternity.,.

    Its sad really, some people just want Yao to get paid regardless of whether he is worth it, and don't care about improving the team.
     
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    I think the Yao situation is a bit more complicated than other players in the history of the NBA. A lot of teams would like to have him for his commercial appeal, so they may offer him the max, so the team can make money. Some teams would love to have the missing piece for a championship, a center that can give you 25 min with great offense. The other factor is Yao's humility and loyalty. Last but not least his prone to injury, which without this there wouldn't be any debate of resigning him for the max. I thnk that if Les can make Money off him he should use that money to sign a free agent even it means going over the cap.
     
  18. realmustang

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    What puzzles me is how you can call other people ignorant when you show your ignorance by using such a derogatory term such as Beaner as your nickname. Have some pride.
     
  19. stab

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    Re-sign him..
     
  20. IamKhan

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    Last year's team was already a legit second round team.

    With that team (assume Yao is healthy), replace Landry with West (the new Landry), replace Brooks with Parker (the new Brooks), would just contend for a 7-8 seed, and lose in the first round just about every year?

    That's a contender in my opinion.

     

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