What kind of Christian are you?

Sorry again. Repulsive wasn't the correct word, but vulgar definately was, in the historical sense.

I only mean it in the sense that when you prattle on about Methodist, Catholic, blah, blah, blah you take the pure holiness that is god and sort of rub him down and around through the messiness that is man. It seems disrespectful to me.

 

I guess by default according to your definition I'm Protestant, even though The Church of Jesus-Christ of Latter-Day Saints has nothing to do with Reformation, or Martin Luther, etc...



I don't think this poll is very telling, if you don't mind me saying...

 

haven, refresh my memory. What does the noble man do that the religious man in the Western world does not?

 

Rich -- Christ said "you must be born again." (John 3:7) I don't think "born again" is a compartment of Christianity, but rather, a necessary aspect. So while I'd certainly say I'm born again and that I must be born again, I believe that would also be in line with the traditions of the reformed faith making me a Protestant, by definition.

But please don't take the born again label and ascribe it to only one segment of Christianity. To me that's like saying, "are you Protestant OR do you accept Christ as your savior?"

 

Aren't they opposites? Greeks = boldness, passion, war, drama. Christians = meek, pious, humble.

 

RichRocket-By the time stamps on your posts it looks like the kids kept you up late and got you up early

I would quantify myself as a Christian although my denomination is Pentacostal.

 

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one knows the Father but by Me."

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it."

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith; and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God; not by works, so that no one can boast."

I am a sinner who wanted to know God. Through the Bible, I realized I could never know a God who is holy because my sin seperated me from Him. There was nothing I could do myself.

God made a way for me to know Him. He knew that the penalty for any sin is death. That's why He sent His beloved Son, who is another aspect of God, to live a perfect life as one of us, tell mankind of God's plan, and pay the penalty of everyone's sins by giving up His own life. It was a perfect plan to bypass the sin barrier, keep His holiness intact, and communicate with those who could not understand the purity of His words.

I gave my life to Him. In effect, I asked that Jesus Christ's perfect life would represent my life when it was time for God to judge me.
My sinful life would never have been enough. I deserved death, but found new life because of Jesus. I was born again.

I am not a Christian because I attend a church, or have done many good deeds. I am a Christian because I accepted Jesus Christ's free gift of salvation. I live my life in the way Christ has taught me to live as put forth by His holy Word, the Bible. I protest anyone's claims to be a Christian who does not live by the words of Christ.

I know all this is true because I am a living testimony. I am proof.

 

Catholic

 

HayesStreet, haven,

I wasn't concerned w/ the history of Nietzschean thought, or the psychology of being a Greek or being 'Christian', I was hinting to people afraid of Neitzsche b/c of his famous diatribes this his noble man still maintained "don't eat your friends" beliefs. Being from the rather conservative South, that was an epiphany as a child. I hope that clarifies the point that I was trying to make (I'd rewrite my post but I'll just ask that you reread it in that light).

ps, something seems funny about your answer bobrek, after reading mr_gootan's essay. I feel like I'm supposed to do the drum snare bit for you.

btw RR, I assume there are some really nice people in that 'no kind' lot. Other than the Satanic atheists such as myself, I assume that you'll feel safe w/ knowing that there are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc. in that lot.

 

catholic.

 

Achebe:

I don't really think so. The essence of Nietzsche's overman is his ability to forge his own, independent systems.

Hannibal Lecter, quite frankly, is the Nietzschean overman. So much for not "eating" your fellow man .

Not that Lecter is the only possible manisfestation of the Nietzschean overman. But rather, represents one possible attempt to "go under." Other figures in literature have been called the Nietzschean overman, like Fitzwilliam Darcy in Pride & Prejudice and the main male character in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.

Nietzsche argued that to be noble was to be beautiful, powerful, and true to one's own ethos. Any sort of servility, humility, or even pity is contemptible.

In Thus Spake Zarathustra, Zarathustra asserts that the hardest part of "going under" is abandoning your love of man. He goes to the Isles of the Blessed, only to return out of his love for humanity. While Nietzsche is ambivalent about this, the ending makes it apparent that love of man manifested through compassion is a hindrance, if not a flaw. Love is alright... empathy is alright... compassion and pity are not.

Although remember, the book is... umm... as vague as Revelations, so I could be interpreting it less than accurately.

 

Oh fine, prove me wrong with all of those "facts". pthththththt... Okay, so much for the History of Western Philosophy... hmmm... shall we discuss Environmental Ethics? LOL. I only paid a glance to the continent, and now I've been called on it.

BTW, are people reregistering just to vote 'no' over and over again???

 

mrgootan -- exactly! great post!!

Rich -- your poll is unreliable in this way... i didn't vote in it! am i born again?? absolutely! am i protestant?? absolutely!! so which one do i say i'm not!?? are all protestants "born again"?? depends on your definition of protestant...do you mean one who actually believes in the reformed faith?? then, absolutely. but i imagine there are people out there who would say, "i'm born again!" but we might disagree.

 

So you're one of those nasty buggers who likes analytic philosophy? Ugh!