What if Mo Taylor, Cato and Moochie had worked with Grover?

I wouldn't get too excited about Grover until we actually see Tracy's on-court results.

I am excited, but I'm not ready to call the guy a wizard yet.

 

doesn't Grover get head to work with?

 

Way too hypothetical. They're way out the league cuz they didnt. So its almost impossible to gauge if they ever even had POTENTIAL work ethic in them to begin with. Those guys are finished products and didnt come across as the types that just needed a little more push. Those guys were just slouches.

What if I listened to my football coaches in high school and worked out harder? I'da been an All District free safety but too bad I didnt.

To play along with this further, Cato got traded away FOR McGrady when the team already had Yao. Cato would have helped another team IF he'da worked harder. And I think Moochie actually did try to get in shape losing weight and cutting the hair but it didnt help much.

 

If Mo hadn't gotten injured,and had worked with Grover,he would have been a better offensive player. Better conditioning wouldn't have helped him on defense and rebounding. Cato's stamina would have been better,but apart from one year under JVG,he really was a hallucination. Moochie's fitness would be better too,but once the iso was taken away,he was finished unfortunately.

 

they would pretty much still suck.

 

In before the "lets get Kelvin Cato as back up center"

 

I look at it much simpler. If all 3 of those guys had their own high school buddy as a personal trainer, instead of an NBA Strength & Conditioning coach.

There is a big difference in qualifications between a 24 hr fitness personal trainer and a NBA Strength & Conditioning coach.

 

They would clearly just return to elite status.

 

It all comes from within. You can have the best trainer and motivator but if you don't have the desire then it doesn't matter.

- Mo Tay might have benefited the most from training with Grover. But it doesn't help the fact that he wasn't well conditioned, was a poor rebounder and defender top it off with an injury after a fat contract and you're pretty much doomed.

- Cato had hands of stone. There's no way around that. He can thank Steve Francis for the few years he had a job.

- Moochie Norris? Seriously???? Moochie was an NBDL level talent with zero athleticism and no special skill that stood out. He's lucky he last as long as he did.

These guys needed a miracle. Not just a great trainer.

 

LOL. That joke is played out but it's funny in this case. Probably cause Mooch and Cato were that pathetic.

 

LOL. Can't believe people aren't seeing this for what it is.

If you can't grasp the distinction between a guy whose body completely fell apart with the subsequent claim that improper training technique was a causal contributor and three guys who didn't even feign interest in maintaining themselves upon re-signing, I nor nobody else here can help you.

The level of hatred on this board is beyond juvenile at this point.

 

Who needs doctors? Webber should've have gotten Grover to do his microfracture surgery.

 

This is interesting, Moochie was already a bball junkie, but Cato and Mo Taylor could have surely used the training techniques of the uber core guy Grover.

Mo Taylor may have even been able to rebound 7 a game...and Cato might have lasted longer.

Great question...maybe all the Rockets should go there.

DD

 

Aren't you misrepesenting something here? Grover is legendary for maintenance and restoration of players. He's not some kind of super teacher that will turn mediocre players into superstars,what he has been proven to do is keep athletes healthy for a long period of time (Jordan, Kobe) and restore athletes whose bodies have broken down (Dwade, Tmac? J. O'neal?). That's why Tmac, Arenas, and other oft injured superstar players should go to him to get their healthy bodies back.

Mo Taylor and Cato were average at best IMHO. Working with might have prolonged their careers, but I doubt it would have significantly increased their performance. Plus you know what they say about leading a horse to the water...if they didn't have the drive to work out it wouldn't do any good anyway.

If Grover is the best shouldn't he cost a lot? Maybe that's why only superstars are going to him...but then again Head is at Grover's place as well so maybe they have a discount area? Otherwise everyone on the Rox roster should have Grover looking after them...

 

SF3 should have worked with Grover...

 

You know I love you bro. I'm laughing right now at the fact that the point of this apparently went over everyone's heads.

 

Are you saying that Mo Taylor, Cato, and Moochie expect return to Elite Status?!

 

Yeah, uh really?

Maybe it is more fun to play along.

DD