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[Welcome To Obama's America] More riots, this time in Milwaukee

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Aug 13, 2016.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    I doubt a 3% difference is statistically significant in a sample size that is under 1,000

    In other words, Fox panders to racists, CNN does not.
     
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    lol, you literally post daily out of text quotes from MLK in an attempt to support your not so dog whistle racism. :)
     
  3. HillBoy

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    Oh Yeah! They sure got uppity once they got their freedom, huh?
     
  4. HillBoy

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    Yeah, but in his defense, it's hard to see when you have your klan hood on backwards...
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    This probably wouldn't have happened if they had just thrown Micheal Brown's father in jail for doing the same. You can't let people get away with inciting a riot on TV without punishment.....they did, so now we get more of the same every time a moron that happens to be black gets themselves shot by police in a justifiable manner.

    Just the thought of someone being justifiably shot by police that happens to be black is enough to make me want to chant "We shall overcome" while burning a city to the ground and looting liquor stores.
     
  6. HillBoy

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    You do realize that your're trying to reason with people who are so completely intolerant of people of color, they don't even begrudge them the most basic tenets of humanity. BTG considers them to be so intellectually inferior that a a group, they are incapable of bearing any legitimate grievances against a social system of institutionalized racism. BigTexx, meanwhile, fervently longs for those days long passed when the white man had his place in America and everyone else knew theirs. They aren't interested in having a discussion about the problems this country faces at all. Rather, they want to wallow in their irrational animus toward President Obama and continue to reinforce their notions of white privilege.
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, wow kiddo, you've got some serious deep rooted issues to work through, I suggest you see someone about it.

    Just because there are a group of r****ds without a legitimate grievance that are making asses of themselves that are black doesn't mean that all black people as a group are that stupid. I like to believe that the BLM types are only one small group of intellectually challenged people and they aren't representative of EVERY black person. Then again, I could see how someone like yourself would struggle with that kind of thinking.
     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Meh, I'd like to see them try. I'd pay to watch the sniper fire honestly.
     
  9. Nook

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    Again........ you have genuine grievances ........ don't use the poster boy case of an idiot that was in no way innocent or a victim of police brutality.

    As for his sister? Well, I hope she goes to jail for attempts to insight violence and destruction of property. If she wants to be mad at anyone, she should be mad at her scumbag brother.
     
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  10. Scarface281

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    Burning down of neighborhoods started with a whole bunch of white folks raiding successful Black neighborhoods, mostly on the false charge of rape on a white girl. I think when people see the LA riots of 1992 they think that people burned down their own neighborhood. Rioters actually walked/drove to Koreatown and burned it down because of the Latasha Harlins case. I have no clue why people want to now burn down their own neighborhood. If they want to drive by a burned down gas station for the next few years then that's on them. It's only now that most areas in Koreatown that were burned down in 1992 are getting back. And this is LA which is popular and trendy. Milwaukee is none of that. Will be blight for decades.

    I really want to know what was told to people to make them want to do this over some idiot with a loaded gun running away from police. It looks incredibly stupid and I'm embarrassed for them.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Let's not blame the stupid actions of today on something you saw in "Gone With The Wind" or something from the 20's. People today aren't doing things because of things that long ago, they are doing them because they simply want to cause destruction and in a lot of cases, they just want to loot stores to steal things they can't afford or don't want to afford.

    I truly think that it all boils down to there being a group of people in society who are looking for any excuse to do things like we're seeing in Millie-wau-kay, or the good land, and that's all there really is to it. There's nothing deeper to be found. It's not even a racial thing, there's people like that of all races who just want some good fun anarchy every now and again.
     
  12. JeffB

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    This is how I feel about these cases. There are historical grievances and institutional oppression. But you can't hold up a guilty criminal as the poster child of the cause. That just feeds into the counter-narrative against your movement. You gotta have a cleaner case in a society largely hostile to your interests.

    Hell, that is why the NAACP ultimately took up Rosa Parks as the poster child of their legal case. They tried for quite a while to build a test case but the people who would violate the back of the bus law tended to not be squeaky clean enough survive public scrutiny. Hell, there is still a theory out there (that likely can't be proven) that at the very least Rosa got tired of the NAACP waiting for the perfect case and just took it upon herself to provide it.

    The gas station the rioters targeted has been a flash point for a number of conflicts recently: http://fox6now.com/2016/08/14/gas-s...night-has-seen-several-incidents-this-summer/
     
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    LOL! did she really say we need our weaves?
     
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    What it's like to be black in Milwaukee

    Milwaukee, Wisconsin (CNN)On one side of Milwaukee's Sherman Park neighborhood stand grand houses with manicured lawns and tree-lined streets.

    On the east side of that charming, close-knit enclave, however, lies an impoverished swath of rundown homes, shuttered storefronts and vacant factories that harken to the city's industrial heyday.
    It's at the intersection of these two worlds that Milwaukee exploded with violent protests over the death of Sylville Smith, a 23-year-old black man who was armed when police shot him on Saturday. The officer who shot him also was black.

    For two nights, protesters torched a half dozen businesses, smashed cars and and hurled rocks at police on Milwaukee's north side.

    But tensions have been percolating for decades here in one of America's most segregated cities, where black men are incarcerated or unemployed at some of the highest rates in the nation.

    People who live here, both black and white, have long known this. It's only now, however, that authorities -- and the nation -- are waking up to it.

    "These young people don't have much, and they're treated like they don't have much," said state Representative David Bowen, a man who isn't much older than many of those protesting.

    "We have written them off."

    Curfews and prayer alone won't solve the issues
    The weekend violence was largely confined to Sherman Park, a predominately black neighborhood on the city's north side. In other parts of Milwaukee, however, life seemed to go on as usual.

    "Other than the people who live in the community, everyone else knows what's happening because of the news," Jackson said.

    The site where protests raged this weekend now smolders. At times on Monday night, it seemed like a wake. People came to pray, to cook food, to raise money for Smith's family.

    At other times, it seemed like the neighborhood would explode again as cops in riot gear pulled up in vans and pounced on young men.

    Police erected a temporary plastic barrier around Sherman Park, which was also the site of violent clashes between police and dozens of young men in June after a city bus was vandalized. The park is now closed from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m.

    "The kids, they have more weapons than the cops. They don't have the skills to navigate life without violence, which rules here."

    James Miller, Sherman Park resident

    But resolving Milwaukee's problems will take more than curfews and prayer.
    "How do we lift our young men out of the cracks?" asked Valencia Morgan, 52, who stood outside Sherman Park with her daughter and her grandchildren.

    "They come from homes where mom and dad are on drugs," she said. "Kids are growing up by themselves, taking care of their siblings."
    She brought with her six dozen freshly baked cupcakes and a handwritten sign that read: "Free cupcakes, free hugs!!!"

    A pair of white police officers in a van took up the offer, stepping out of their the van to eat a few and exchange hugs with the group.

    "I know they are misunderstood," said Morgan, who is black. "I'm happy they felt comfortable enough to stop."

    One of the worst cities for racial inequality

    The reaction to Smith's shooting death by police only highlighted deeply rooted issues here.

    "The killing was simply the spark in a very combustible situation," said Reginald Jackson, a teacher and community activist who lives blocks from the unrest.

    On virtually every indicator of racial inequality, Milwaukee consistently ranks among the worst five cities in the country.

    Milwaukee's racial tension goes back decades, but it's largely tied to the collapse of its industrial economy. When manufacturing jobs were cut, the segregated black community was hurt disproportionately as many people began moving to the suburbs.

    Why it's called 'the worst place to live' if you're black

    Milwaukee has one of the highest poverty rates in the nation: 29%
    17.3% of blacks are unemployed, compared to 4.3% of whites
    It ranks 8th for violent crime among cities of 100,000 or more
    In 2014, the median household income for blacks was $25,600, compared to $62,600 for whites

    Over the years, the city has been a flashpoint for a number of racially charged political battles over voter ID laws, affordable housing and school reform. About 70% of Milwaukee's black children attend hyper-segregated schools -- nearly the same levels as 1970.

    The city, which one of the poorest in the nation, has also fought for two decades over a never-built regional rail transit system.

    Blacks are overwhelmingly concentrated in the city and a few nearby suburbs, while the surrounding suburban counties are less than 2% black and less than 5% Hispanic. Because there is almost no public transportation between these parts of Milwaukee, the metro area remains racially, economically and politically divided.

    Standing near the burned down gas station Monday night, moments after a tense confrontation between protestors and heavily armed officers, Rep. Bowen said the city "needs to listen" to this community's "calls for help."
    "A big portion of the population is starting to give up hope that Milwaukee will ever change," he said.

    Where it's easier to buy a gun than find a job
    Nealena Poe, 19, walked by the charred remains of the BP gas station Monday evening and joined a group of strangers holding hands. They bowed their heads and said a prayer behind the yellow police tape.

    "There are killings every day, Little children are dying. There are no jobs. And there are some racist cops," she said. "But we're killing each other, too."
    Asked if she planned to attend the protests later, she shook her head. "I have a child to live for."

    Milwaukee is the eighth most violent city in the US. There were seven violent crimes for every 1,000 people in 2015, according to FBI statistics. It had 145 homicides last year.

    So far this year, 83 homicides have been reported. Five of those occurred between Friday and Saturday.

    James Miller, 54, said it's easier to buy a gun in Sherman Park than to find a job or a decent place to eat. He said more than a dozen young men, armed with handguns, rushed past his house on their way to the protests Sunday night.

    "The kids, they have more weapons than the cops," said Miller, who has lived in Sherman Park for 20 years. "They don't have the skills to navigate life without violence, which rules here."

    Alderman Khalif Rainey and others have said the street violence stems from deep seeded inequities, unemployment and lack of educational opportunities.
    "No one can deny the fact that there are problems, racial problems in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, that need to be rectified," Rainey said.

    Smith's death was just the latest flashpoint in a simmering city. Last year, protesters took to the streets after the district attorney declined to prosecute a white police officer who fatally shot a mentally ill man named Dontre Hamilton.

    The area, according to Rainey, has been a "powder keg" for unrest.
    "The black people of Milwaukee are tired; they are tired of living under this oppression," he said. "This is their life."
     
  15. Cohete Rojo

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    You can make the same accusations of segregation like that found in Milwaukee with cities like Chicago and Detroit. Fresh-water Democrats. Houston and Austin are likewise segregated, with Austin being the most segregated city in America, but Texas was a major slave state.

    So, should we quadruple the number of H1-B visas, legalize the illegal immigrants, and continue to offshore jobs with the TPP? Would that help their economic prospects?

    I'm curious, have the black people in these hype-segregated northern cities ever uttered "Dey terk er jerbs!" or anything to that effect? I am of course assuming they had jobs at some point in time.
     
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    Color doesn't define your future, but it certainly defines your opportunities along with how smart you were in choosing the right parents and community to be born into.
     
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    I don't have a dog in this fight, but CNN was called out for misrepresenting the sister's words as peaceful instead of inciteful. LOL.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/cnn-edits-out-milwaukee-victims-sister-sherelle-sm/
    That's so dishonest and damages their credibility.
     
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    You're telling me CNN is dishonest? Woah, mind blown!
     
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