Vassilis Spanoulis: Thibodeau Was The Real Head Coach Of The Rockets, Not Van Gundy

I'm trying to learn about this topic. No need to get mad just because I'm asking you to provide a source for your clams. This is an opportunity for you to build up some credibility on this board.

I couldnt' find a source for this, other than the Greek Phantis Wiki and Nikos Deja Vu blog, and the quotes are all unsourced and supplied without context, unfortunately.

That's not enough for me to believe that Gallis (or Petrovic, but you want to focus on Galis) is universally regarded as the best European player ever. Not saying he isn't, because I don't know enough about European basketball or its history to dispute it. I've just never heard anyone else ever claim it so definitively as you.

Maybe its an unfair request. European basketball is more dispersed, with all the different leagues and tournaments. So, perhaps its just less likely for there to be a consensus on who the greatest basketball player was. If there was such a consensus, then I would think it wouldn't be so difficult for you to demonstrate it. Instead, I get scattered unsourced quotes and articles about how great Galis was (from Greek sources, where he is regarded as a hero). You've convinced me that he was a great player, and probably the greatest Greek player ever. But you haven't convinced me that he is universally regarded as the greatest European player by the experts.


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http://wiki.phantis.com/index.php/Nikos_Galis

Said about Galis

* Michael Jordan: "I did not expect to find such a good offensive player in Europe, especially in your country." (October 1983, National team of Greece Vs University of North Carolina for the "Dimitria" Tournament).
* Drazen Petrovic: "I'd love to play in the same team with him so I can pass the ball to him to score!"
* Drazen Petrovic: “If I'm the Devil's son, then Galis is the devil himself.”
* Aza Petrovic (1988): "Drazen is my brother, but I vote for Galis."
* Arvydas Sabonis: "I have the feeling that if Galis wants to score a basket, he will score, no matter what the opponent does, nor who the opponent is. He is always determined to succeed."
* Giorgos Amerikanos: "The man is a computer! He knows what, when, how and why he does what he does. I have not seen such self respect to a player before. He can, if he is certain, take a shot from the center of the court, having five players guarding him, despite a teammate of his being unguarded under the opponent's basket. If I had him next to me in AEK, there would be decades before we taste a defeat."
* Audi Norris: "I have seen a lot of big players in my life, but what Galis did today (1987-88, Barcelona - Aris) can be done only by 2-3 players in the whole world."
* Antonio Miguel Diaz (1990): "Come on, tell me the truth. Galis came with you. Where do you hide him?"
* Bob McAdoo (1985): "What Galis and Aris did tonight never happened to me before. Not even in a Celtics game."
* Bob McAdoo: "I've seen Galis doing things that I have not seen either Lakers or Celtics doing."
* Vasilis Goumas: "If we played together we would score 300 points every game. He sees the basket as a barrel."
* Yiannis Ioannidis (1986): "I warn you! When Galis won’t be able to fly as now, he will be the best play maker in Europe!"
* Sergei Belov: "I admire him. When he plays one on one there is no way to stop him. I never thought there could be a player who could on his own give nightmares to and beat the Soviet Union."
* Ruudd Harevaain (Holland coach): "I found a way to stop Nick. We will lock him in a hotel so that he cannot come on the court."
* Aleksandr Gomelsky (former Soviet Union head coach): "Galis is the player of the 21st century."
* An opposing team's head coach, during a pre-game press conference: "I found the way to stop Galis. I'll shoot him". [/rquoter]

 

durvasa, I think you may have stumbled on a way we can stop these worthless threads!

 

may expects agree that this is the hottest greek chick in the world

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With all due respect to Galis and Petrovic and Sabonis and Spanoulis, has any European player ever been as good as Dirk Nowitzki is right now?

 

Once Ionos Boutslayros husbanded 12 ewes, castrated 4 rams, and personally nursed 3 suckling lambs from his own self-induced lactation, while dunking over Kamal Sukor in the 83 Barnyard Thrace vs. The World Final Four.

It is known to have been the greatest performance of all time.

It is known.

 

Yeah well, Galis was not born in Europe.

 

Why would I want to build "credibility" with someone that keeps saying that something can't be true if it was written by a Greek or even if it was from FIBA - it cant be true if it was something reported from Greece?

That no source if it is Greek could be legit or count or used?

Yeah, so basically, according to your incredibly xenophobic and ignorant belief system, Jordan cannot be the best player in NBA ever, simply because he is American and every source making that claim is either from America, or from an American. Ergo, cannot be trusted and cannot be true.

I think this is the last time I ever respond to you here.

 

Foreign Born or whatever. He wasn't better than Magic or Bird so save it. Drawing these delusions in your mind doesn't make them fact my friend.

 

Funny, because I did not say it.

 

No one said such a thing.

What you wrote: "In Europe, historically, Drazen Petrovic and Nikos Galis are pretty much universally regarded as the best European players ever by basketball experts."

If you want to defend the claim that Greek hero Nikos Galis is "universally regarded as the best" European player ever, it would be much more convincing if you cited sources outside of Greece. That's nothing against people in Greece. Its natural for sports fans to be biased towards their national sports heroes.

If only Americans believed that Jordan was the greatest NBA player, then of course one could not say Jordan is universally regarded as such.

 

That topic has frecuently been discused at this forum. 90-95% of people think that Nowitzki is the best european baskteball player ever, not now but already some years ago. There is a small minority that maintains that Sabonis could have done a better career if he had gone before to the NBA, younger and healthier.

Still, facts say that Nowitzki is the player with the highest level shown to date against the best opposition.

 

I'd say Dirk would be a damn good bet. He's a monster to defend.

 

I have heard a lot that Sabonis was arguably the best player IN THE WORLD (including the NBA) at his peak. I guess we would never know it because he didn't compete with the best players at his peak.

By watching what he could do in the NBA, passing, shooting, rebounding, on a blown knee just got me imagine how he could have done with his athleticism intact.

 

The timing of this comment from Span is what makes it reek of BS.

 

A bunch of 15 year olds on the Spanish League forum are not European basketball experts.

 

Yeah that's cool, but why are all those people bowing down to the bottom of a toilet bowl?

 

huh?

 

Still mad I see lol

He could have tried it out SA if he really wanted it, but he took the easy way out.

He definitely was the tmac of Greece lol