V-Span might join Spurs after friendship with Parker

What Greek players is he talking about? Jake Tsakalides? Is that the other amazing Greek player that biased NBA coaches benched for no reason, cuz I dont think there are any others. Its sad that big Jake has been held back from becoming the most dominant big man in the NBA, after all he was the Yao Ming of Greece.

 

I think if you actually go back and read my posts you will not find me saying any such thing. Only that I wanted to get V-Span some run to see if he was going to develop.

And, if he comes back to play in the NBA, it will sort of validate what some people were saying in that he felt promises were made and broken by the Rockets franchise.....and clearly he hated JVG, which makes me like him even more.



DD

 

I want to reply rationally to this but I have to go with my initial response - You GOTTA be kiddin ....

So there's a conspiracy and prejudiced against Greek players from producing...led by Chief Van Gundy

They can play right on par with the NBA All-Stars and their talents should be unquestioned. But they'll keep those talents in their own home town cuz they "want" to...

A real competitor would think, thats unfortunate what happened with a talented guy and good friend...but I'M gonna go over and do MY thing, tough for him.

Yeah dont EEEVER to go a team like the Spurs or Toronto, where Greek origins might come come into question and hinder a player from getting a chance

 

http://www.sports24.gr/

 

That's not the direct link to what you posted. All you did was direct me to a main site with links in Greek. Where exactly on the site is it?

 

With all due respect, Senor Scientist, all your little "off the top of my head"-yet-starts-off-in-perfect-alphabetical-order list proves is that Spanoulis in Greece is better than a buttload of NBA rejects and has-beens.

Using the exact same scientific criteria, *I* am a better basketball player than Wilt Chamberlain, because if current-day Wilt and I were to square off in a game of 21, I would *seriously* kick his decomposing a$$.

In BBall Scientific Notation, that looks like:

TopFive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilt the Stilt

I think there might be a flaw in your formula, BBall Doc. Try again.

P.S. I've slept with more women than Wilt has since his untimely death, too!

 

I think if somebody actually went back and read your posts to find out all of the stuff you said about Spanoulis, their computer would overheat and crash while attempting to download the search results.

 

I've been trying to get the original source of the translation but have had difficulty finding it. It's not out of the question that he said it to his homeboys in Greece because I did find this article where he toned it down and said it in a more politically correct manner to the Europeans.

http://www.superbasket.gr/?c=283&a=3473

Thodoris Papaloukas gave a press conference and spoke about everything. When we say “everything” we really mean “everything”! Teo said that he is searching for a team in NBA that can give him the playing time, the money and the victories that he used to enjoy in Europe. He also reveals that he will definitely stay in CSKA if his dream for NBA will not be fulfilled.



About NBA: I wan to go to the NBA but only for playing in the highest level. I am not a teenager anymore; I am almost 31 so I have to be very careful. I will go to a team that is winning. I don’t want to play for a club that suffers 50 losses every season. NBA is not like Europe and I am used to European style. Here there are no salary cups, transactions and there are some very important and serious laws that are being followed by everybody. It is not like Greece… I am speaking with 12 teams but I cannot reveal them right now. CSKA wants to me to take a final decision till the 15nt of July but I respect them and I care for the team very much so I must respond earlier if it is possible. I think that a lot of teams are waiting right now and they stand on a weird position, cause of the possible transaction of Kobe Bryant.



About a specific team: I will go to a team where the coach respects me and believes on what I can offer. I don’t want to be like Vassilis Spanoulis that has the quality and the potentials to play in the league but he belongs to a team that doesn’t give him the opportunity to play. Personally I am interest for San Antonio, Dallas, Detroit, Cleveland and Miami. I am waiting for some changes on those teams. If an important player leaves, maybe there is a spot for me. It is a very difficult and important decision.

About his comeback: I had a lot of discussion with somebody very on Greece. Everybody know who he is but I cannot mention his name. He show me his real interest and I am honored but I don’t want to comeback to Greece.



About Greek National Team: I d’ never say no to our national team. At least for the next two years. If they want me of course… I will play for Greece as long I am physically capable to play at the highest level! I am more than glad for all that had happened to me. It’s really out of my imagination.

 

i think i would pay good money to watch a reality show of VSpan on the Spurs roster.....

Pop standards on work ethic, effort, shutting up trap and working and making you earn your minutes will make JVG seem to like his mother.......

the guy whined before working hard and gave up, this would be fun to watch

 

surely Clutch has deleted them to save space and removed them from his post count

 

Trajan Langdon >>>>>>>>>>> than Gilbert Arenas in college.
Christian Laettner >>>>>>>>> than Shaq in college.
How did those work out in the NBA.

Plus, Vspan did get a shot in the NBA. He played terrible when given the chance, however limited that chance was. He also had another shot next year under a new coach and decided to go home instead.

 

This sounds interesting, but I just wonder what kind of real NBA competition you could provide these teams over 82 games. Could you imagine the road schedule for teams having to travel to Europe to play or having them come here would be tough on the players. I world league of basketball is what the end result would be and that's great, but don't we already have the best players from around the world in the NBA. This expansion could further dilute the talent level of the NBA.

 

Novack: GP 31, MPG 5.5, FG 36%, 2PTFG 45%, A/T 1.5, PER 7.7

Kill Bill: GP 30, MPG 8.7, FG 32%, 2PTFG 42%, A/T 1.0, PER 5.5

So one-dimensional shooter Steve Novack gets less of a chance but does better than ultra-star V-Span, even in 2 pt shooting and assist/turnover ratio.

That's right, it's all because of the anti-Greek sentiment in the NBA. Of course, I'm sure Darko will tell you the anti-Yugo hate crimes are what have kept him from being a NBA superstar and probably also explains Peja's playoff disappearances and his bad back. The Pacers and Warriors inject Jasikevicius with the drugs that strip him of the prowess that humbled the Yankees in Olympic play out of revenge.

It's a conspiracy by the American elitists to not allow the glory of the South or Eastern Europeans to outshine them with their brilliance.

Kazakhstan greatest country in the world, All other countries are run by little girls. Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium, all other countries have inferior potassium.

Evan

 

OK.....while this may or may not be true, the only whining V-Span did was in the Greek press about how he was lied too....can't you understand his frustration?

Let's assume for the sake of argument that he was right, that the organization promised him something and then the coach failed to deliver on that promise because he had a rift with management.

The rest of the stuff, was just classy ole JVG continuing to pile on to protect his sorry pet project Rafer. V-Span never said he was TMac....JVG started that rumor.

If you or anyone here is a player, and you were signed under false pretenses, or lied to......wouldn't you use every bit of leverage you had to get away from somewhere that you did not trust?

It didn't work out for Billy here for whatever reason......he struggled as a player when he was put in, I freely admit that.......but JVG was inconsistent......some players he sat for struggling while others he gave more time to for playing horribly.....RAFER....anyone?

So, I have no problem with anything V-Span did, it is his career and he is or was just following in the long footsteps of Steve Francis, John Elway and any other professional athlete that wanted out of an untennable situation.

I can't understand people that continue to pile on the guy, what did he do to deserve any of this?

As I see it, he signed a deal, was apparently misled into signing the deal, and then railroaded by the coach as a pawn in a power struggle with management, that got him fired. What a way to start your career, wouldn't you want away from that drama?

I wish him well, and hope he comes back to the NBA and plays for Pop, a coach who is demanding but fair.....not vindictive like little boy baldy.

DD

 

Eventually, what you're gonna get is NBA/FIBA version of Soccor's FIFA/Worldcup. I can see the writing on the wall.

 

You act like JVG was playing his "pet" Rafer while Jason Kidd sat on the bench. The reason Rafer played so much is because when he sat out, we looked horrible. Not because Rafer is great, but because Vspan, Head, and JL3 were not able to play PG with any success. Say what you want about Rafer's play, but you have to admit the team usually looked awful when he was taken out of games.

As for your confusion about why Vspan gets piled on, what about quiting on his contract. Especially quitting even though JVG was replaced by Adelman. Then he says he will never come back to the states, even if he is traded to San Antonio. Now you are hoping he comes back and plays for them. That would make him a quiter and a liar.

You pile on JVG relentlessly even though he is not with the Rockets anymore. What did he do to deserve that? Win 52 games in the West with an injured Yao for 32 of them. And dont say he failed in the playoffs, cuz you were killing him all season long even and they kept winning and winning.

Vspan is no longer a rocket. I dont see why we keep talking about him. If anything things worked out perfect, cuz Scola should help us out far more then he would have.

 

It has nothing to do with his ability to communicate, he's no doubt an effective communicator, just like the way he sold Billy to the rockets fans that he's got no potential and benched him.

The connection here is his credibility. I would rather watch FSN, listen to Clyde than watch ESPN and listen to Jeff's crap.

And btw, my boss is greek.

 

Boy the waters are getting mudder by the minute. Don't forget that JVG tried to make V-span into Steve Kurr by making him a catch and shoot 3 pt specialist. JVG never gave V-span a chance to play at the PG and handle the ball. Which is where 90% of his strengths as a player were in the first place. His penetration, passing, pick and roll skills are what made him successful in Greece. Did JVG ever use these skills in the NBA? No he tried to make the guy fit a specific role which was all wrong for him from the word go.

God forbid a guy gets fustrated under these perfect conditions!

 

LOL. Great comparison, trying to make VSpan into Steve Kerr. That's perfect.

The further we move away from the Van Gundy regime, the more I am realizing that we needed to make a change.

 

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