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USA vs. SLO on ESPN2 at 1 p.m. CT (2 ET)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 26, 2014.

  1. True Rocket

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    Harden tryna get some bday buckets
     
  2. traveler

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    Harden missing.
     
  3. traveler

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    Nice game to see. Been missing watching BB.
     
  4. arjun

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    pretty terrible game by team USA for their standards.

    anthony and kyrie played well, but outside of that...not too great.
     
  5. jman7373

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    Anybody know what Harden's final stat line was?
     
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    How come Harden still has not figured out when to shoot and when to pass? Besides his defense, that's what still makes this guy so frustrating to watch. Once he figures that out, he might come near T-mac's level.
     
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    He's already passed T-mac.
     
  9. TheRealist137

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    at what? Certainly not in terms of playing basketball
     
  10. rockbox

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    Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    1 James Harden 2013-14 24 73 73 38.0 7.5 16.5 .456 2.4 6.6 .366 5.1 9.9 .515 7.9 9.1 .866 0.8 3.9 4.7 6.1 1.6 0.4 3.6 2.4 25.4
    2 Tracy McGrady 2002-03 23 75 74 39.4 11.1 24.2 .457 2.3 6.0 .386 8.7 18.2 .481 7.7 9.7 .793 1.6 4.9 6.5 5.5 1.7 0.8 2.6 2.1 32.1


    Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% FTr 3PAr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
    1 James Harden 2013-14 24 73 2777 23.5 .618 .529 .552 .401 2.6 10.7 6.9 27.3 2.1 0.8 15.0 27.8 120 107 10.1 2.7 12.8 .221
    2 Tracy McGrady 2002-03 23 75 2954 30.3 .564 .505 .400 .247 4.6 14.6 9.5 30.0 2.2 1.5 8.4 35.2 116 104 13.2 2.9 16.1 .262

    Here is Harden's stats last year versus Tracy McGrady's BEST year in Orlando. The only thing McGrady is better than Harden at is chucking the ball. McGrady took 8 more shots a game to get 7 more points than Harden. This is McGrady's best year. The following year, McGrady took 7 more shots than Harden and to get a whole 2.5 points more than Harden.
     
  11. KiwiRocket

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    Go back and actually watch T-Mac dude, Harden aint anywhere close to Tmacs level.
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You got rekt
     
  13. TheRealist137

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    You're just going to IGNORE your own post which says Harden's PER was 23.5 against T-Mac's 30.1?

    T-Mac posted one of the all-time great PERs that year. That PER was higher than Durant and LeBron this past season.

    If you're going to post stats, at least analyze them correctly.
     
  14. bmd

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    Why was his PER so high?
     
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    Ain't anywhere close is an exaggeration. I don't think Harden will ever have the usage rate or the shot attempts to ever match a per game statistical season like McGradys best, but even if Harden plays at this level for the next 5-7 years I think looking at the entire career Harden would be considered better.

    Offensively Harden already takes a few of the big advanced stats. Extremely more efficient and just a better overall shooter. McGrady is the superior passer and turned the ball over less. Right now Hardens last 2 seasons in total win shares and win shares/48 are better than all but 1 of McGradys seasons.

    Defensively is where TMac has his separation. He had a built in advantage with just how much bigger he is plus up until he quit on us he actually gave the effort.
     
  16. jordnnnn

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    More shot attempts = higher PER
     
  17. PeterKingX

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    Harden is the worst player of USA starters in this game.
     
  18. King901

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    Hi tinman
     
  19. PeterKingX

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    Harden can't even shoot free throws. 2/5???WTF
     
  20. Haymitch

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    He's the worst basketball player ever. Shaq had a better FT% smdh!!
     

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