University Of Toronto Gender-Neutral Bathrooms Reduced After Voyeurism Reports

Not really, pervs can be pervs of the same sex as well. Men can perv on other men and women can perv on other women... A man can enter a boys room and perv on little boys too.

The ones who reported the cell phone don't even know who did it.

You want to make it harder for pervs to enter restroom then lets hire bathroom guards.

 

Who are "they"--the 0 transsexuals caught harassing non-transsexuals?

 

Many more straight folks than gays. Don't be dense.

 

You're going to quibble with me over study methodology? How about you demonstrate ONE reason why this discrimination should persevere?

Can you point to one transsexual which would cause a "parent to be concerned"? Can you point to why gender-neutral bathrooms are such a disaster when they've been properly implemented?

All of your other questions are based in the same root fear of sexuality, you're just tossing the whole bridge with your irrational animus. It's sad, really. You do recognize this is the same bulls**t "men mating with animals en masse because same-sex marriage".

Notwithstanding the fact that I personally do not care AT ALL about nudism or BDSM relationships and think that they are generally less harmful then teaching biases that lead people to assault others for no real reason or consent, how the f**k did you just compare a trans person trying to go to the bathroom without being assaulted with BDSM in elementary schools?

Yeah, the reason why you have to is that you absolutely have no evidence for your position, so you need to reach for some sexual dysphoria you're uncomfortable with to defend a purely irrational discrimination.

 

You're not even on topic. Shocker.

 

and many more places to commit sexual assault and care about it than gender-neutral bathrooms as demonstrated by American society at large--but of course you'd be very selective about that wouldn't you.

let's get rid of gender-neutral bathrooms, and not a culture that encourages discriminating against LGBT for no reason and commits sexual assault, without accountability, en masse.

 

Good lord have mercy on our souls. We are worried about the one in a million perv cases (and mainly, notice please, MEN are worried), but have no prob walking around carrying armed weapons of war. LOLOL. Americans gonna America.

 

HB2 applies to public agencies (schools, courthouse, dmv, etc).

To the extent that the state has sole jurisdiction over public agencies, the law is the means of setting bathroom policy.

If you want to make a federalism argument that it should be controlled more locally, that's fine, but the principle is the same (the state controls public facilities).

And as a general matter, the left's obsession with imposing gender-neutral bathrooms is effing stupid. For whatever reason, it's super important to them that kids with penises (what we used to call "boys") have the ability to go to the bathroom with your daughter at school.

And if you pass a law ensuring this will not occur ("Local boards of education shall establish single-sex multiple occupancy bathroom and changing facilities"), your state is a bunch of bigots for some reason.

It's exhaustingly dumb.

 

Gender neutral bathrooms.

Is this sort of news really surprising? Univ of Toronto was asking for it.

 

That doesn't mean anything at all. Was it a straight person that did this? You seem to be jumping to the conclusion that this happened BECAUSE of them letting trans use the restrooms they want to use.

Could have been a woman. Could have been a dude who would have done this regardless.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/urologist-pleads-guilty-filming-woman-skirt-article-1.1580528

Read about this guy. He's hardly the first case of using spy cameras to perv on women in ANY environment. Should we just make separate everything by gender?

 

Take a step back from the computer. You're arguing that men should be allowed in women's restrooms. That is what you are saying. Think about the reason why that is ridiculous.

 

First of all, you're unravelling your own argument on federalism. insofar as states are better at determining than the federal government conditions in their state, that should also be the case for cities as you admit. You're being an utter hypocrite on this.

You're going to say something like because HB2 conflicts with the federal tyranny of Title IX, states are better because they're more local...then when HB2 conflicts with Charlotte regulations, you're going to say "the principle is the same, states are the best?"

Yeah, the left's obsessions with gender neutral bathrooms might have to do with the rights of Americans being impugned de facto through irrational animus--do you also wonder why desegregation of bathrooms was a big deal?

 

Why are gender neutral bathrooms ridiculous to you? They have existed for decades. Are they the reason 98% of rapes go unpunished with jailtime, and are they the reason for the 290,000 or so sexual assaults committed a year?

I'm curious--why do you think that's ridiculous at all?

 

I don't want the sex offenders in the men's room either.

 

So you are on record then for letting FTM into ladies restrooms as well then right. Such as the case for this guy below, a FTM transsexual.



You are letting this dude go into women's restrooms. So you are fine with that? You want to separate by gender then when this "Woman" as you have it strolls into the restroom there will be 0 problems, right?

Besides, you didn't even address the point as usual. Address these two points.

1.) You don't know the perpetrators. So how did this turn into "Must be because of those trannies." ? This incident proves nothing, your argument is that men walked into the restroom to spy on women when that is not known.

2.) Pervs will continue to be pervs, as I just proved above. The spy camera thing is not new. Should we just separate everything by gender?

 

You definitely are confused.

If you want to argue local jurisdictions should decide, I'm fine with that reasoning (depending on the agency, it might make sense).

But it's not as if the left wouldn't be just as furious if H2B was imposed at a city/county level.

The end game is for restaurants/stores etc to be forced to have gender-neutral bathrooms. The left should admit that.

Most people rightly see that as a false equivalence.

 

LMFAO Hell yes I am going to point out the sample size and measures used, when you rely upon a particular study for the basis of your opinion.

There is no government discrimination, none....... no one is preventing the trans community from using a restroom.

Well, you mean other than the man in the ladies changing room full of 8-10 year old girls, where he walked around with his penis hanging out while being stoned and then proceeded to ask the girls where their parents were?

No it isn't..... but not surprised you would make that claim, as you use some version of it concerning every single issue/discussion on this board.

How did I compare it? It is simple, what behavior or condition do you find socially inappropriate and society shouldn't make massive changes to appease an extreme minority group?

You are consistent, I will give you that.... You stated that you wouldn't have an issue with it and I respect that.

Why did I use nudity and BDSM in regards to children? Because gender neutral bathrooms/showers/changing rooms DO effect children and is one of the leading reasons people do not like the law.

Again, there is no discrimination. No one is preventing a transgendered person from using a restroom. Rather than trying to find some nefarious reason some one has a particular opinion, worry about articulating your own opinion; you need to work on that.

 

What's the argument against transgenders using unisex/family restrooms or private stalls? If all establishments implemented a private stall, would that satisfy transgenders?

I certainly understand arguments for/against the status quo vs. gender identity bathrooms, but getting the population to agree on that seems more difficult than implementing private stalls.

 

don't let the left dissemble

this isn't about gender-neutral bathrooms

owners are already free to set those up if they choose

this is about forcing them to

 

No, this particular thread seems to be questioning gender-neutral bathrooms. But thanks for trying to bring your hypocrisy on federalism to the fore.