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Trump's coronavirus response

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I didn't read his comment like that at all. If tests are free ( and I can attest that there are free tests, insurance covered tests and out of pocket cost tests in Florida) then why isn't there a national testing program? It's a valid question. We do have evidence that Trump doesn't like testing, but i doubt he is deliberately restricting testing.

    The issue is that there currently is not free testing available to all US citizens.
     
  2. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Long lines and backlogs have been an issue throughout. Lack of test was an issue early on and not everyone have access to free test. My friend recently got his result after 5 days through a private lab. Everyone in his family went through private lab testing and paid OOP because there were no availability at the Houston free test sites. They also got their result back after 5 days.

    Testing has been poorly managed from day 1 and it’s a major part of the issue, along with the lack of a system to trace and isolate. Just a major failure that contributed to widespread cases.
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    They were so upbeat 5 months ago. My, how time goes.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...rs-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference-3/
     
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    Ohio has free testing available.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Ok.... is there nationwide free testing available for anyone who wants it? The answer is no
     
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    https://www.fema.gov/fact-sheet/federal-support-expand-national-testing-capabilities
     
  7. Wattafan

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    Is that all the govs fault?
    The answer is no.
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Who is responsible? Note that in my original post I did not blame Trump.

    Where should we look to guidance for access to free tests?
     
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    Not my meaning at all.
    The Ohio governor was going to meet the President. Therefore, he was require to be tested for COVID-19.
    Your kid is going to school. It's a secret who is positive at your kid's school.
    It's not the same, you see? It's dumb: you see?
     
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    You used "all" to sidestep the conversation entirely. No one suggested that but sure who should be most(is that better...) responsible for a national response to a national pandemic? At first, it was "all" blue state governors' fault despite the fact that blue states are in metro areas and have much higher population densities. There was not much of a nuance in discussion when it came to blue states. Now that's becoming increasingly more difficult to do with each passing week as states like Louisiana, Arizona, Florida, Mississippi are passing or have pass everyone in infection rate. Louisiana is also about to pass a thousand death per million population as well. Lousiana...

    It's incredible that in a country where people's default reaction is to blame the federal government for everything, suddenly its unfair to do so. Even tho this problem is affecting us on a national level and we are doing terribly in "all" statistical categories regarding this pandemic in comparison to other countries.
     
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    From nashp.org.
    "Multiple federal programs have recently emerged that fund testing, but to date, they primarily cover only the uninsured and there is no clear roadmap for how these fragmented funding streams interrelate and how states should respond. One small piece of the solution appears to rest in state Medicaid programs."
     
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    So what's your solution?
     
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    Your last paragraph contradicts your first two.
     
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    And you're surprised we and many other nations were unprepared for a novel virus?
    Why?
     
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    Why do you refuse to believe he is as bad?
     
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  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Ok.... so who is responsible for free tests not being available nationwide for whoever wants them? We were told they would exist. You thought they existed. They don't. We were told drive thru testing would be available as well as rapid results. While there are some, they aren't widely and readily available. Rapid results aren't available for the vast majority of us.
     
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  19. wompwomp

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    First, theres two paragraphs. Second, no it doesnt. I wrote when something goes wrong in this country, federal government's is generally blamed for it, national disasters, economy, etc etc., fairly or not. But now when the federal government actually deserve the brunt of the blame for mismanagement, it becomes it is what it is. Again you sidestepped the conversation. Who should be most responsible for a national response to a national pandemic?

    In this case, our president said it best.
    Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
     
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    Pretty much all other modern nations have the virus contained.

    While some did start of as bad as the US or even worse, they have fought back and contain the virus.

    Why is the US doing so bad?

    Poor leadership, lack of prep, continuing to downplay it, open back up too early, insufficient testing, no national strategy, did not aggressively move to a test, trace and isolation system when opening up, .... those are just some of the reasons.
     

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