Yes they handled their biz well enough imo. We all saw the mobilization of their resources and the lockdown. As of today, Wuhan has been reopened while we sit at home. Giving that they were the first to deal with this, I would say they did better than most, particularly when we compare to many nations like us who had a heads up and still failed to to take the necessary steps to deal with it. What you are asking of China is simply unrealstic or do you expect Xi to allow anything jeopardize his postion or that of the CCP? China is China, they (like every other nation) do what they think is in their best interests. Expecting them to jeopardize that is naive. If China was more forthcoming it would have likely weakened their position both internally and externally, while there are potential opportunities for them to have by having the virus spread to other nations. Not surprising which option they took.
Ridiculous trump defender excuse making enters a new phase... the "if trump would have acted sooner on the Coronavirus crisis sooner (and listened to scientific, medical, and even cabinet member advise) he would have been ridiculed by Democrats. Instead, he let thousands of Americans die...
Now that trump has pulled the federal government away from testing (despite past boasts and promises), trump goes back to pointing the finger if blame at the states. Shameless lack of leadership.
I know you hate china and you think their numbers are a lie. The numbers might not be that accurate, but they are doing a way better job than the US and Europe in regards to the virus. Furthermore Trumps own people told him it was going to happen: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/navarro-warning-trump-coronavirus.html It seems like plenty of asian countries knew how to handle it.
probably it is true now after US have 562,176 cases, about 1/3 of all cases of the world. looking forward to face masks and rising stocks.
I don’t hate China, I hate the CCP. The numbers out of China are false and have little value. Even research conducted m by Chinese academics is not reviewed by the CCP Ministry of Medicine and any edits or findings are then controlled and the CCP decides what if any information is released. Also intelligence reports show the Chinese were fighting COVID19 since at least September/October so they did not have immediate success at all and we still do not khow their true level of infections or deaths. I am not defending USA response at the federal level. Trump decided to disband the pandemic response team and end all funding. That was a colossal mistake. Trump received intelligence that the pandemic was coming and wasn’t proactive at all and that was a terrible mistake. Trump then lied to the American people about COVID19 and failed to set any appreciable standard policy, and instead encouraged the states to fight against one another. Make no mistake, the President has been a massive failure on the pandemic handling and people in the future will study the event and ensure they don’t repeat his mistakes. While all of that is true, it is also true that the CCP were not forthcoming and lied to the world in an effort to save face,
This is pretty damning stuff, and one of many excellent reporting being done in recent weeks. Sadly, it will likely get dismissed by conservatives and generate little interest from everyone else. This part is something that gets too little media attention, IMO. You can rail against China all you want for the virus in the first place, but you can't blame them for the fact that the US is leading the world in the number of cases and deaths right now. For that, you should look towards your elected leaders with deep seated skepticism about governmental procedures and oversight, and no real sympathy for the suffering being endured by a large part of the population.
The following is part of an article by David Frum of The Atlantic. It was reprinted in Defense One, a well known website focused on the military, obvious by it’s name. That they chose to do so is striking. They aren’t seen as a “liberal” source. Quite the opposite. It makes for very interesting reading. The rest can be seen via the link at the bottom of the page. From THE ATLANTIC by David Frum The United States is on trajectory to suffer more sickness, more dying, and more economic harm from this virus than any other comparably developed country. That the pandemic occurred is not Trump’s fault. The utter unpreparedness of the United States for a pandemic is Trump’s fault. The loss of stockpiled respirators to breakage because the federal government let maintenance contracts lapse in 2018 is Trump’s fault. The failure to store sufficient protective medical gear in the national arsenal is Trump’s fault. That states are bidding against other states for equipment, paying many multiples of the precrisis price for ventilators, is Trump’s fault. Air travelers summoned home and forced to stand for hours in dense airport crowds alongside infected people? That was Trump’s fault too. Ten weeks of insisting that the coronavirus is a harmless flu that would miraculously go away on its own? Trump’s fault again. The refusal of red-state governors to act promptly, the failure to close Florida and Gulf Coast beaches until late March? That fault is more widely shared, but again, really responsibility rests with Trump: He could have stopped it, and he did not. The lying about the coronavirus by hosts on Fox News and conservative talk radio is Trump’s fault: They did it to protect him. The false hope of instant cures and nonexistent vaccines is Trump’s fault, because he told those lies to cover up his failure to act in time. The severity of the economic crisis is Trump’s fault; things would have been less bad if he had acted faster instead of sending out his chief economic adviser and his son Eric to assure Americans that the first stock-market dips were buying opportunities. The firing of a Navy captain for speaking truthfully about the virus’s threat to his crew? Trump’s fault. The fact that so many key government jobs were either empty or filled by mediocrities? Trump’s fault. The insertion of Trump’s arrogant and incompetent son-in-law as commander in chief of the national medical supply chain? Trump’s fault. For three years, Trump has blathered and bluffed and bullied his way through an office for which he is utterly inadequate. But sooner or later, every president must face a supreme test, a test that cannot be evaded by blather and bluff and bullying. That test has overwhelmed Trump. Trump failed. He is failing. He will continue to fail. And Americans are paying for his failures. The coronavirus emerged in China in late December. The Trump administration received its first formal notification of the outbreak on January 3. The first confirmed case in the United States was diagnosed in mid-January. Financial markets in the United States suffered the first of a sequence of crashes on February 24. The first person known to have succumbed to COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, in the United States died on February 29. The 100th died on March 17. By March 20, New York City alone had confirmed 5,600 cases. Not until March 21—the day the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services placed its first large-scale order for N95 masks—did the White House begin marshaling a national supply chain to meet the threat in earnest. “What they’ve done over the last 13 days has been really extraordinary,” Jared Kushner said on April 3, implicitly acknowledging the waste of weeks between January 3 and March 21. Those were the weeks when testing hardly happened, because there were no kits. Those were the weeks when tracing hardly happened, because there was little testing. Those were the weeks when isolation did not happen, because the president and his administration insisted that the virus was under control. Those were the weeks when supplies were not ordered, because nobody in the White House was home to order them. Those lost weeks placed the United States on the path to the worst outbreak of the coronavirus in the developed world: one-fourth of all confirmed cases anywhere on Earth. Those lost weeks also put the United States—and thus the world—on the path to an economic collapse steeper than any in recent memory. Statisticians cannot count fast enough to keep pace with the accelerating economic depression. It’s a good guess that the unemployment rate had reached 13 percent by April 3. It may peak at 20 percent, perhaps even higher, and threatens to stay at Great Depression–like levels at least into 2021, maybe longer. This country—buffered by oceans from the epicenter of the global outbreak, in East Asia; blessed with the most advanced medical technology on Earth; endowed with agencies and personnel devoted to responding to pandemics—could have and should have suffered less than nations nearer to China. Instead, the United States will suffer more than any peer country. It didn’t have to be this way. If somebody else had been president of the United States in December 2019—Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, Mike Pence, really almost anybody else—the United States would still have been afflicted by the coronavirus. But it would have been better prepared, and better able to respond.Through the early weeks of the pandemic, when so much death and suffering could still have been prevented or mitigated, Trump joined passivity to fantasy. In those crucial early days, Trump made two big wagers. He bet that the virus could somehow be prevented from entering the United States by travel restrictions. And he bet that, to the extent that the virus had already entered the United States, it would burn off as the weather warmed. At a session with state governors on February 10, Trump predicted that the virus would quickly disappear on its own. “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do—you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat—as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases—11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” On February 14, Trump repeated his assurance that the virus would disappear by itself. He tweeted again on February 24 that he had the virus “very much under control in the USA.” On February 27, he said that the virus would disappear “like a miracle.” Those two assumptions led him to conclude that not much else needed to be done. Senator Chris Murphy left a White House briefing on February 5, and tweeted: “Just left the Administration briefing on Coronavirus. Bottom line: they aren’t taking this seriously enough. Notably, no request for ANY emergency funding, which is a big mistake. Local health systems need supplies, training, screening staff etc. And they need it now” https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/20...irus-damage-trumps-fault/164554/?oref=d-river
Gold plating is flaking off the chump wagon. He's got five months to fix this mess or effectively put the blame upon someone else. With the shitstorm as it is right now, I'm not sure how gungho Putin will be to **** with our elections. People are itchin to fight someone. Better China than his oil state.
An interesting read about the great partisan divide when it comes to how Trump's daily briefings are perceived. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-briefings.html
Even as he retweets a ridiculous attack on Dr. Fauci (the preeminent expert on pandemics), trump also manages to lie...
trump always makes promises he can't keep... A Month After Emergency Declaration, Trump's Promises Largely Unfulfilled
Is this true? I was under the impression that republicans and "conservatives" believe in this thing called "state's rights" and that it was up to state and local governments to make such decisions. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-x
Save this one for when he opens things up too early and there's a spike...he'll blame the governors for opening up too early, but, as always, there's a tweet for that.
Trump is just BSing. The Criminal in Chief did not dictate that the States shelter in place except for essential businesses. The CiC only suggested that. Now, Trump wants to dictate to the States ... ostensibly to help his re-election campaign.
What is more likely to happen is that States open up as they see fit. Trump will then blame the States for all economic troubles, both past and present, since nothing is his fault ... ever.
It's Hillary's fault. You know, he can say that......but for the wrong reasons: She would have taken earlier action. Heck, lots of potential Presidents would have. Guess he'll just have to hang the millstone around Fauci's neck and throw him overboard.
