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  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
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    [Educational Post]
    A very easy question to answer. Tax cuts and deregulation reversed the damage done to the economy under Obama. Trump grew the economy in the face of rising interest rates, and grew it at levels that Obama never touched. Obama had literally the most stimulus of any President ever, yet his poor policies stunted our growth. Trump led the bi-partisan passage of criminal justice reform. And of course Trump has worked hard, despite Democratic opposition, to stem the tide of illegal immigration. No one suffers more from illegal immigration than low income African Americans. That's just a fact.

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    1) You can help black people and still be racist just like you can help a woman and still be sexist

    2) I don’t think Trump is any more racist than the average person. He’s a master manipulator who has tricked a lot of scared, undereducated white people into believing that he’s the solution to their self imposed problems.

    3) A$ap Rocky is an ******* and he deserves to rot where he is.

    4) Trump is making the wrong decision to help him, but he’s a businessman who will never pass up an opportunity for good press.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You know that the damage to economy happened under Bush and the economy has grown slower under Trump than Obama - that's just a fact.
    Illegal immigration does not hurt African Americans nearly as much as a low minimum wage - that's just a fact.
    Trump's immigration policies have not impacted African unemployment significantly as African American unemployment hasn't changed significantly under Trump compared to Obama - that's just a fact.
     
  4. Mr.Scarface

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    Keep saying Bullshit.......at some point...u MAY actually believe it.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
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    Allow me to set you straight, young man. It's OK to be wrong, as you are, but what's more important is to learn. Who better to learn from than the legend himself, The_Conquistador. Class is in session:

    This is demonstrably false. Read it and weep.
    https://www.multpl.com/us-real-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year

    No actually what a minimum wage does is make illegal jobs that pay below the minimum wage. Quite obviously, making these jobs illegal reduces the number of jobs, thereby disproportionately slamming African Americans. Those who can least afford to lose their jobs will do so after minimum wage hikes. It's a pity. Have you not heard of the automation trend? People calling for minimum wage hikes are like DINOSAURS. So outdated. We have to keep up with the times.

    Wrong again, young man. AA unemployment is down to RECORD LOWS under Trump. Thank you President Trump for enabling this with solid, pro-growth policies. The opposite of what Obama implemented.


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    WRONG!

    Looking at one year and a quarter of GDP is not a valid comparison first of all. But let's look at unemployment since that is what we are talking about:

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    Clearly most of the gains in Unemployment and the steepest improvements happened under Obama, not Trump.

    Now lets talk about AA unemployment. Under Obama it dropped from a high of 16% to 6.3%

    Under Trump - it's 5.9%
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU04000006

    Laughable that you give all the credit to Trump.

    As for illegals hurts blacks - the proof that black unemployment dropped so low before Trump took office counters that argument completely. And a minimum wage hike does have an impact as it helps lower the crime rate since people have a better chance of earning a living.

    Sounds like you just got OWNED!
     
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    For those who are saying racist would not help a black man. In College sports in the 60s/70s, there were MANY coaches/athletic directors that were FLAT-OUT racist and said they would never have black players. That was until Black players began tipping the scales in basketball and football towards schools who integrated. These RACIST realized if they wanted to compete AND keep their jobs, they would need those black players. Many of these coaches (Adolf Rupp was famously one after losing to Texas Western) were still racist...but wanted to win.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    From the few seconds of footage I saw from ASAP's entourage where he gives these guys "fair warning" I'm inclined to think he's guilty. I assume they released their best exculpatory clips, and if that's the best they've got, they've got nothing. I guess we'll see when he gets his trial.

    ... cities that were segregated because of the racially discriminatory practices of jerks like Trump. Not sure what's unfair about it.
     
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  9. pgabriel

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    Blacks couldn't afford to live in Trump properties


    You gon blame segregation on Trump who didn't take ober tbose properties till the 70's? Relax

    Edit: Trump isn't turning down any money
     
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  10. JuanValdez

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    Not all black people are poor, not even back in the 1970s. Redlining and segregation wasn't invented by Trump, but it doesn't have to be for him to be guilty of participating in the practice. Don't know why you want to contort yourself to minimize his complicity.
     
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    Trump isnt turning down any money. Ive never believed he wouldn't rent to blacks

    He maybe an ******* but he isn't a racist like that and im not contorting myself. Im very confident in my thoughts on this .He isn't turning down anyone's money.

    The federal government picked a high profile target. There is nothing concrete behind those charges
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    Redliners in the rental market thought that having black residents would drive white flight and erode the market value of their units, costing them later. I'm sure his ultimate motivation was trying to maximize his profit by keeping the buildings white. Even without racial animus, it's a practice that was very destructive for black families who were charged more or shut out altogether from neighborhoods, schools, jobs and services that could have helped them build family wealth and educational attainment. I know your preference is for the black community to focus on the future and help themselves, but at least acknowledge what happened in the past.
     
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    I never said it didn't happen in general. Dont project my thoughts please. Im saying i think they went after a high profile target in Trump to accomplish a larger goal.
     
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    On point A, I'll apologize and retract the implication. On point B, how high profile do you suppose Donald Trump and his father were in 1973? If they were targeted, it was because they owned and managed lots of rental property. Which is kinda appropriate considering they were concerned about discrimination in housing.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    I didn't just come up with the reasoning of the government making a concerted effort to integrate northern cities. Ive read that and i was trying to find the site i read that on. But what i read also made the point Trump was a high profile target.

    Secondly his settlement with the government wasn't very punitive
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    Happy to read the article if you find it. You're right on the settlement -- I think Trump simply promised not to discriminate anymore, and then there was another accusation later that he broke his promise and continued to discriminate anyway. I would be careful about taking the settlement as a barometer of the gravity of the offense, though.
     
  18. durvasa

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    LOL, what?
     
  19. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    "F the popo"

    - A$AP Rocky
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Really? This is hilarious......

    He was accused of racism many times - was even sued over it for not letting minorities rent in his buildings and had to settle that suit.

    Honestly, WTF is wrong with people - no one does any research...

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