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Trouble in Laker Land

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by rimrocker, Oct 26, 2003.

  1. rocketfan83

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    Also to anybody that saw Jim Grey on SportsCenter/

    Is it just me or was Jim Grey crying?
     
  2. ILuvEddie33

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    They are really getting into it!!!! For the people watching SC he said he reacieved calls from a lot of ppl except Shaq even Webber called him!!
     
  3. yaopao

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    Much ado about nothing.

    It wouldn't surprise me if this was Zen's way of making the NBA look past LA doing anything this year, with all the "turmoil". At any rate, LA thrives in "turmoil" anyhow.
     
  4. bigballerj

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    Yeah they were thriving all right...

    Thriving=eliminated in 2nd round :D
     
  5. yaopao

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    They did win 3 rings despite "hating" each other...
     
  6. vj23k

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    A Nugget? Denver? Colorado...?

    There's no way he heads to Denver after he is booed every time he plays in Denver(Assuming the Denver fans react like I expect).
     
  7. rezdawg

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    I couldnt tell if it was crying or if he was really, really nervous. Its a toss up between the two.

    Kobe definitely attacked Shaq pretty harshly.

    If I was Kobe, I would shut my mouth. Shaq has huge leverage given the fact that Kobe cheated on his wife. If I was Shaq daddy I would bring it all out in the open....
     
  8. codell

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    He has already won 3 things with the best center in the league. So how would just playing for the Rockets be a dream? lol
     
  9. Easy

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    Is there anything new Kobe said that was reported in SC? Can anyone do a brief recap?
     
  10. Texas Stoke

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    what are the chances this was all contrived by Phil Jackson, Kobe, and Shaq to get media and attention focused throughout the year on this Shaq and Kobe fued instead of Kobe's legal troubles?
     
  11. codell

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    Here are the latest quotes:

    “HE IS NOT MY big brother,” Bryant said of O’Neal in an interview with ESPN. “A big brother would have called me to lend support.”

    On Monday, Bryant told ESPN that “It doesn’t matter whose team it is. Nobody cares. But since it is his team, no more coming into camp fat and out of shape.”

    He also disputed O’Neal’s insistence that he is the Lakers’ leader. “Leaders don’t beg for a contract extension and negotiate a $30 million contract in the media,” Bryant said.

    “My knee is not strong enough to play yet. I know it,” Bryant told ESPN on Monday, “But I don’t need Shaq’s advice on how to play hurt. ... I don’t miss 15 games because of a toe injury that everybody knows isn’t that bad.”

    :eek: :eek:
     
  12. Bookit

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    This is getting good.:D
     
  13. B-ball freak

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    I always took Shaq's side before, but he is definitely kicking a man while he is down.
     
  14. ROXTXIA

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    All those old frustrations just blowing up.

    If Kobe beats the rap, he acts as if he doesn't want to play with Shaq anymore. Not that the exchanged barbs add up to burned bridges, but....and let me jump to conclusions, I'm good at it....who would take a player in trade who might very well have to skip a few seasons for sexual assault?
     
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    I think there's no fixing this relationship now after this interview.:eek: :eek: :eek:
     
  17. SLA

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    Well..I gotta support my man Shaq! Shaq is the boss!
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    man that interview....major o'neal 0wna9e right there.
     
  19. SaFe

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    I cannot wait to hear what Shaq has to say. Kobe just ripped Shaq apart in this interview, and if Shaq doesn't respong, he is a big puss. This is SO awesome. :D
     
  20. DaDakota

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    The transcript of Kobe Bryant's interview with ESPN's Jim Gray:

    GRAY: What was your reaction to Shaq saying the Lakers are his team, and everybody knows it?

    BRYANT: It doesn't matter whose team it is. Nobody cares. I don't, Karl [Malone] doesn't, Gary [Payton] doesn't, and our teammates and the fans don't either. There's more to life than whose team this is. But this is his team, so it's time for him to act like it. That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. Also, "my team" doesn't mean only when we win, it means carrying the burden of defeat just as gracefully as you carry a championship trophy.

    GRAY: Do you consider Shaq to be a leader?

    BRYANT: Leaders don't beg for a contract extension and negotiate some 30 million [dollars] plus per year deal in the media when we have two future Hall of Famers playing here pretty much for free. A leader would not demand the ball every time down the floor when you have the three of us [Malone, Payton, Bryant] playing beside you, not to mention the teammates you have gone to war with for years -- and, by the way, then threaten not to play defense and rebound if you don't get the ball every time down the floor.

    GRAY: Shaq says that you have not been a team player. Is he right?

    BRYANT: That's ridiculous. I have been successfully sacrificing my game for years for Shaq. That's what Phil [Jackson] wanted me to do, so I did it. Last year Phil told me Shaq was not in physical condition to carry the trust of our offense, so he asked me to do it. But then he saw Shaq was getting upset that the team wasn't running through him, so Phil asked me to pull back and I did. This year is no different; my role is whatever Phil want it to be. Period.

    GRAY: Through out the preseason, your leg and conditioning has been lagging. Are you in the proper shape to start the season?

    BRYANT: My knee is not strong enough to play yet. I know it. When it is I will play.

    GRAY: Does that mean you will miss the opener [Tuesday] night and other games?

    BRYANT: I probably won't play tomorrow night or until I'm ready. But I don't need Shaq's advice on how to play hurt. I've played with IVs before, during and after games. I've played with a broken hand, a sprained ankle, a torn shoulder, a fractured tooth, a severed lip, and a knee the size of a softball. I don't miss 15 games because of a toe injury that everybody knows wasn't that serious in the first place.

    GRAY: Kobe, Shaq said if you didn't like what he had to say you can opt out and leave next season. Will you leave the Lakers?

    BRYANT: I won't make that decision until the end of the season. I told Shaq last year that I was planning on opting out. He knew before anyone. I told him out of respect for what we have been through together. I thought he should be the first to know. The fact that he acts like this is such a big shock is a mystery to me. If leaving the Lakers at the end of the season is what I decide, a major reason for that will be Shaq's childlike selfishness and jealousy.

    GRAY: Do you feel Shaq has been supportive in regards to your legal situation?

    BRYANT: He is not my quote unquote "big brother." A big brother would have called to lend his support this summer. I heard absolutely nothing from him. I spoke to Devon [George], Rick [Fox], Mitch [Kupchak], Phil, and our owner Jerry Buss. And Shaq's own Uncle Jerome called and left three messages. Other teammates like Derek [Fisher], Mark [Madsen], and [Stanislav Medvedenko] left messages as well. Opponents called like [Chris] Webber, [Mike] Bibby, and many others. So did a lot of coaches. Michael Jordan, who didn't have my home phone, tracked it down to lend his support. So did Tiger Woods. But yet from my so-called big brother, I heard nothing.

    GRAY: Why not resolve this behind closed doors? Why is this so public?

    BRYANT: I asked Phil on Sunday [yesterday] to say something to calm this situation down before it boiled over. But he backed away, so now here we are. I have been a bigger person every time something happened with Shaq, and I don't expect this to be any different. But somebody in this organization had to speak up, because his unprofessionalism hurt us last year, and I don't want it to hurt us this year.
     

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