The one the cops told to STAND DOWN! It Seems Zimmerman didn't give a sh** about the local cops and what they were saying. He wanted to get his Wolverine on . . . Question: Was ZIMMERMAN high on crack, lean or some other drug? Was he casing homes in the neighborhood and worried about competition? Was he verbally threatening and unarmed kid walking down the street? Driving wrecklessly behind a kid walking down the street? Running *chuckle* It is not illegal for a black man to run down the street because. . .that means he running like he stole something. . . . Rocket River
What law did he violate and what evidence is there of that violation? He has a right to walk around in public.
If you just walk up to someone and shot him, can you claim self defense as long as no one is there? Should the police detain you at least to investigate? All the evidences point to he started the confrontation.
Maybe one of the kid's relative should go to confront the shooter and his family members and start a fight and then shot them and then claim self defense.
....and I'm used to dominating your side, as I did in this thread. (as well as taking all the insults your side childishly tosses at me) #puttingonaclinic
The problem though with that argument is that he put himself into the situation. You can't start a fight and then claim you were acting in self-defense. While Zimmerman, as all of us, have a right to talk to anyone in public it's not clear cut at all what events transpired when he confronted Martin. If Zimmerman actually was the first to use violence then the self-defense argument goes out the window. Even if Martin started it self-defense is proportional to the threat and the fact that Martin was unarmed and much smaller than Zimmerman makes it very questionable that deadly force was a proportional response. What we know as a fact is that the police had told him not to follow Martin so Zimmerman willingly put himself in that situation even though he had been warned not to.
Absolutely he does. Does he have the right to go follow somebody after being told not to by the 911 dispatcher, then exit the vehicle (because he was looking for an address in his own neighborhood in which is the self-appointed head of watching), confront the boy who has asked him why he is being followed, and then shoot him? No, I don't think he has the right. The only reason why this guy shouldn't be going for life in prison is the unknown. The known at least warrants jail time, but the amount, I don't know.
Zimmerman did in fact have a right to pursue Martin. What I want to know is how they got into a fight. Was it a lack of respect for the neighborhood watch captain that led to aggression? Something else? We need more facts -- all evidence I've seen is circumstantial and not grounds for arrest.
Hey, let's place the race card instead of waiting for more facts! Playing the race card is the easy thing to do In fact, one could argue that playing the race card is indeed racist itself, as you are assuming that Zimmerman was racist and the police force is racist for not arresting Zimmerman.
How is lack of respect for a self-appointed watch captain reasonable grounds for Zimmerman to respond aggressively? If it is about respect then shouldn't Zimmerman also have afforded respect to Martin?
1. It was a question 2. Could it have caused Martin to attack Zimmerman? Zimmerman stated that Martin attacked him.
