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Tim Legler bashes the Houston Rockets.

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  1. cskerlecz

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    West Grades: Marks Of Success
    By Tim Legler
    ESPN.com
    (Archive)
    Time to pass out West grades slightly past the midway mark, heading for the All-Star break next week (teams listed in order of win-loss record) ...

    Phoenix Suns (Grade: B+) -- The Suns will get their usual 56-60 wins but have been more inconsistent than in past years. They have lost games to bad teams, a disturbing sign since they have annihilated the bottom-feeders the past three seasons. Grant Hill's resurgence has been a great story, and Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire have put up their usual gaudy numbers, but the Suns seem to be lacking something. Look for a major trade to stir things up.

    Dallas Mavericks (Grade: B+) -- Hey, 67 wins last season sets the bar pretty high. The Mavs are still an elite team and remain on the short list of true title contenders, but they have to prove they earn an A grade by showing up in the postseason.

    New Orleans Hornets (Grade: A+) -- The Hornets have been nearly flawless. Chris Paul is a top-three MVP candidate, David West is a well-deserved All-Star, Tyson Chandler has emerged as a dominant force in the paint, and coach Byron Scott has done a remarkable job of turning New Orleans into one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. More than anyone could expect.

    Los Angeles Lakers (Grade: A+) -- Andrew Bynum is on the verge of stardom. Derek Fisher and Jordan Farmar have given the Lakers outstanding play at the point. Now, L.A. gets Pau Gasol without giving up anything indispensable. With Kobe Bryant, the game's most complete player, maturing into a great leader, the Lakers finally have enough talent to make a run at the Finals. Give GM Mitch Kupchak a lot of credit. The only potential problem -- will Lamar Odom be happy now that he is the third wheel offensively?

    San Antonio Spurs (Grade: C) -- Most teams would be thrilled with being 29-16 and in a solid playoff position. The Spurs aren't most teams. Tim Duncan earns his marks based on titles and this version of the Spurs looks shaken as we head toward the All-Star break. Injuries have played a part but 3-11 versus teams above .500 says a lot. Having said that, the Spurs will play their best ball as April approaches.

    Utah Jazz (Grade: C+) -- They are hot right now and appear to have righted the ship, but where was the tenacious defensive commitment, ridiculous team passing, and assault on the glass that got this team to the Western Conference championship last May? Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer have been very good, but they will need more for a deep playoff run.

    Denver Nuggets (Grade: B) -- A lot of people dismiss the Nuggets as a team that can't be taken seriously in terms of winning a championship. But you can't deny the fact that Denver is a dangerous team because of its firepower. They will scare one of the elite teams in the postseason but they are still too undisciplined and lack a commitment defensively.

    Golden State Warriors (Grade: B+) -- Nice turnaround after an 0-6 start without Stephen Jackson. The Warriors can light up anybody on a given night. The problem isn't talent -- it's the ability to win when the game slows down as it inevitably will in the postseason. Chris Webber can help if his knees are rejuvenated. The bottom line -- none of the elite teams wants to see the Warriors in the first round.

    Houston Rockets (Grade: C-) -- Granted, the Rockets have a new coach and have dealt with the annual absence of Tracy McGrady due to injuries, but they earn a below-average grade nonetheless. The offensive freedom that was expected in the post-Jeff Van Gundy era hasn't turned into wins and they have taken a step back defensively.
    Portland Trail Blazers (Grade: A-) -- One of the most refreshing teams the NBA has seen in a long time. They lose Greg Oden for the season, yet the Blazers have won consistently with five guys averaging double-figures all under the age of 25. It's difficult to win consistently with that kind of youth, but Brandon Roy has taken control of the leadership and emerged as a star in only his second season. They have size, athleticism, shooting and depth. Add Oden to the mix next year and you have a team that can contend for a title.

    Sacramento Kings (Grade: INC) -- The Kings get an incomplete because they are this season's version of the 2006-07 Hornets. They have been decimated by injuries to their best players. With Kevin Martin, Ron Artest, Mike Bibby, and Brad Miller playing together, they can compete for a playoff berth. Notice I said "compete". Ultimately they will come up short after falling into such a hole.

    Los Angeles Clippers (Grade: D+) -- The Clips have also been saddled with injuries, but they have lacked energy and passion all season. The lone bright spot has been a career year from Chris Kaman. Look for Sam Cassell to be moved before the deadline.

    Memphis Grizzlies (Grade: C-) -- The Grizzlies cannot be defined by their won/loss record. Rudy Gay has been one of the true breakthrough players in the league. However, this team is a few years away from competing. The Pau Gasol trade looks like a steal for the Lakers on the surface, but this deal isn't about Kwame Brown. The first-round picks and Javaris Crittenton give the team more light at the end of the tunnel.

    Seattle SuperSonics (Grade: D) -- I know that this roster is not much better than its record indicates, but a 14-game losing streak makes it tough to get into the 'C' grades. Kevin Durant can score, but his rebounding and defensive apathy have been disappointing. Hopefully, the bad habits and shot selection he has shown are more a result of the circumstances. P.J. Carlesimo has his work cut out for him.

    Minnesota Timberwolves (Grade: C-) -- If this were written two weeks ago the Wolves would have received a resounding F, but they seem to be turning things around. The good news is that Al Jefferson has turned into a dominant player on the block. Playing without Randy Foye most of the year deserves a break on the grading.


    ESPN analyst Tim Legler is a regular contributor to the Daily Dime.


    What is Tim Legler thinking? His hasn't turned into wins isn't a true statement considering the Rockets are 28-20, 9th in the Western Conference and also he is complaining about our defense... The Rockets are 4th in ppg allowed for the opponent and 2nd in defensive field goal percentage. Minnesota, on the other hand has won 10 games (10-37) and they get the same grade as the Rockets... the hell with Legler... he is just pissed because he never had any success in the NBA, particularly against the Rockets!
     
  2. Purvis2Short

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    Tim Legler is a b%$#h and a known Rockets hater. Same as Barkley and Steven A Smith. The Rockets do deserve a low grade but I cant stand this no talent guy.
     
  3. rocketsregle

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    He's using reverse psychology being as everytime he pushes for us he jinxes us. :D
     
  4. BucMan55

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    Legler went with the Rockets to beat the Mavs in 04-05 and hasnt forgiven them since. He probably lost a lot of money on that series.
     
  5. andrewt

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    how is that bashing? everything he said is true.
     
  6. HeyDude

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    Considering the Spurs got only a C and Jazz a C +, its not too bad...i'd have said a C + or a B- so far......but hey, all that matters is how we play the last 15 games :cool:
     
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    Yes, the Rockets have struggled at times this year and surely aren't an A+, However, they are in the same class as Minnesota? That is just stupid.
     
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    thats what I thought too :eek:
     
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    Everything he said was true.... HAHAHAHA! Seriously? He said the new style the Rockets play hasn't turned into wins, last time I checked, the Rockets are in the heat of the playoff race despite the new style offense "NOT WORKING", like he said? And, for the record when you play a faster tempo, you tend to give up more points on the defensive end, guaranteed. Plus, what is Legler mad about? The Rockets defense is only worse than last year by about 1 1/2 points!
     
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    You know, I kinda have to agree with him though, even though we are picking some wins and momentum as of late. But still, we haven't really improved on offense all that much, if at all, and our defense certainly doesn't stand up to par with JVG's strict defensive standards. But nonetheless, I think we atleast deserve a B- based on the last few games
     
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    The grades are relative to expectations. How f'n hard is that to understand?

    God, what a bunch of whiners...as if we honestly deserve a higher grade than what he gave. You guys are starting to sound like those damn self-entitled Mavs fans.
     
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    the comment he wrote about the rockets was not meant to be exhaustive...

    take a chill pill
     
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    Seemed fair to me. This team was supposed to contend but it has been a .500 team most of the season. If that doesn't deserve a C then it deserves an even lower grade.
     
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    exactly.....some people just don't know how to handle criticism of their favorite sports teams.........I'd like for the people calling him out to give me a reason why everything he said isn't true *rowdie brandon waits*
     
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    WTF? What kind of grade were you expecting when the season is half way over and we're not even in the playoff standings?

    I'd give us a D.
     
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    Well actually in the past Tim Legler has always given the Rockets the props that they deserve. I remember in the years that we were fighting to be in the playoffs he always picked the Rocket among many teams with similiar records and also when we got Stromile Swift and Derek Anderson, he felt as if the Rockets were good enough to be the second best team in the West. If he spoke about the Rockets in this manner, how could he be considered a "known Rocket hater" as you portray him to be. Do your research.
     
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    I actually agree with his rating pretty much, but I don't agree as to why.

    A step back defensively isn't completely true and what free flowing offense has actually occurred.

    I would take their grade down because of lack of execution during the first half of the season, partially due to rotation fluctuation and partially due to injuries and illness. Plus part of it is the overall difficulty to get wins in the West.

    Games like the Heat loss (in their defense it was Shaq's last good game) and the two to Philly losses were unacceptable (one maybe, two.. no way).
     
  19. DonkeyMagic

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    this team was expected to be a contender and pushing 60 wins this year. Their offense was suppose to be much better and its been touch and go to say the least. Defensive lapses have cost the rockets several games.

    the defense does only give up 1.3 more points per game...sadly though that "fast tempo" is also yielding 2.7 fewer points than last year :eek:
     
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    There is nothing stupid about it. Houston's talent>>>Minnesota's talent. It's obvious why we have the better record. But we have been under performing all season long. What did you expect, A grades for the top teams and F grades for the worst teams? You have to factor in talent and expectations. He doesn't mean that Rockets are as good (bad) as the Wolves.

    And to your original post, how is his statement about the wins not true? We have a worse record with a better team. I agree with him about our defense also. The step back is definitely not as big as I feared it would be before the season, but I don't think we're as good.
     

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