1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

This team will never win anything with Brock Osweiler at QB!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Snow Villiers, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    33,392
    Likes Received:
    19,256
    McNair won't allow Brock to be benched this year. Remember after one game McNair overreacted and said that Brock was everything that he had hoped for in a QB? McNair is too stubborn and too proud to admit his mistake and move on this soon.

    We are stuck with Brock this year.
     
  2. Nimo

    Nimo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    13,392
    Likes Received:
    7,056
    It's the state of most NFL franchises. The Browns and 49ers are still making money. The lions keep raising ticket prices. The way NFL fans show their lack of support is by booing, calling radio stations, or tweeting at the players/coaches.
     
  3. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Messages:
    19,870
    Likes Received:
    25,803
    I just wish no fans would show up at the next home game to show the media how disgusted we are with what is happening. Can you imagine how it would look to see no fans in the stands? We shouldn't support keeping Brock as starter.
     
  4. Nimo

    Nimo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    13,392
    Likes Received:
    7,056
    Unfortunately I think that will do more harm than good. What free agents would want to come here after that? What coaches would want to coach here? Shoot, Bob will have an excuse to threaten to move the team after that.
     
  5. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,333
    Likes Received:
    113,213
    Free agents ultimately come if you win or pay big money..... as for Bob, there is no way he is moving the Texans.... he makes too much money. With the LA market carved up, there isn't any available area remotely as profitable now or in the future.

    Also, fans not showing up isn't a big surprise..... 10,000 empty seats in Soldier Field this weekend. The tickets were purchased by season tickets but no one wanted to go.
     
    Two Sandwiches likes this.
  6. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,677
    Likes Received:
    52,208
    http://www.scout.com/nfl/texans/story/1732732-houston-texans-should-turn-tom-savage
     
    Two Sandwiches likes this.
  7. Nimo

    Nimo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    13,392
    Likes Received:
    7,056
    When fans stop showing up and it starts affecting ticket sales, you are trying to mess with his money. There is always a place for a new NFL franchise. San Diego, once they move, San Antonio, Mexico City, OKC, etc. Houston is very profitable now, partially because the fans are loyal and rich lol.

    The bears have three consecutive losing seasons. The Texans area bout to have three consecutive winning seasons. Not the same thing...unfortunately or fortunately
     
  8. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    31,122
    Likes Received:
    14,688
  9. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,677
    Likes Received:
    52,208
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 1999
    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    190
    3 lowest qualified QB ratings in the NFL this season:

    Case Keenum 76.7
    Ryan Fitzpatrick 72.2
    Brock Osweiler 72.2
     
  11. whag00

    whag00 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2003
    Messages:
    5,611
    Likes Received:
    3,587
    Not exactly T.O.'s - "That's my teammate. That's my quarterback. You guys do
    that, it's not fair. We lost as a team. We lost as a team, man."
     
  12. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,677
    Likes Received:
    52,208
    Two of those guys have been benched this season. NYJ keeps rotating their QBs though
     
  13. juanm34

    juanm34 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    6,723
    Likes Received:
    7,787
    #BrandonWeedenMustStart
     
  14. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,677
    Likes Received:
    52,208
  15. red5rocket

    red5rocket Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    9,670
    Likes Received:
    12,236
    Jesus!
     
  16. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,677
    Likes Received:
    52,208
  17. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,677
    Likes Received:
    52,208
  18. HillBoy

    HillBoy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,620
    Likes Received:
    2,098
    If Osweiler is the answer at QB, then I'm afraid that the Texans didn't know the question:

    http://thecomeback.com/nfl/houston-texans-should-fear-future-with-quarterback-brock-osweiler.html


    HOUSTON TEXANS SHOULD FEAR FUTURE WITH QUARTERBACK BROCK OSWEILER

    Posted by Eli Hershkovich on Nov 29, 2016 11:00

    Entering the previous offseason, the Houston Texans were in a major predicament. Would they continue to string along a group of mediocre quarterbacks or plunge into a major financial risk? On March 10, the highly-regarded backup Brock Osweiler signed a four-year, $72 million contract, including $37 million in guarantees in the first two seasons with the franchise.

    Last season with the Denver Broncos, Osweiler stepped in for Peyton Manning, who tore the plantar fascia in his left foot. During an eight-game stretch, he racked up 1,967 yards and 10 touchdowns, but also generated eight turnovers. During a miserable 232-yard, two-interception performance in the regular season finale against the San Diego Chargers, Osweiler was benched for Manning. According to one reporter, that signaled the end of his career in the Mile High City, leading to the surprising signing with Houston.

    Although the former fifth-round pick’s job doesn’t appear in jeopardy at the moment, Texans coach Bill O’Brien and the rest of the organization must be pondering if his substandard showing will ever improve. Let’s break him down.

    When the Texans’ campaign kicked off, the Idaho native masked his issues versus a then-subpar Chicago Bears’ defense. He notched his second-highest total quarterback rating (QBR) of the season so far (78.5), tossing for 231 yards, two scores and an interception. Nevertheless, his 62.3 completion percentage on the afternoon would currently sit in the bottom tier of the league, indicating that utter regression was on the way.

    Even in one of Osweiler’s finer starts of the season in a Week 6 matchup with the Indianapolis Colts, where he led the team to an overtime win after trailing 23-9 midway through the fourth quarter, his total QBR (42.8) told a different story. Likewise, prior to the contest, he and O’Brien, who tookover play-calling duties following Week 3, traded intense critiques of the offense. If the governor and his lieutenant aren’t on the same page with a 3-2 record, chaos will shortly ensue.

    Since Week 7, Osweiler has produced an anemic 181 yards and less than one touchdown per game. Additionally, he’s mixing in a turnover per contest over the five-game stretch. In Sunday’s Week 12 matchup against San Diego, his ugliness hit its peak, flinging three interceptions and failing to move the ball past the Chargers’ 38-yard line more than three times.

    Those lowlights aren’t what Texans general manager Rick Smith had in mind when inking Osweiler to that massive deal, right?

    Overall, the 6-foot-8, 235-pounder’s total QBR (55.6) ranks No. 27 in the NFL. Essentially, through 13 matchups, Osweiler is measured as one of the least efficient QBs around. Moreover, his completion percentage (59.5) places No. 29 in the league, in front of Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick and Josh McCown. On top of that, he’s dead-last in net yards per passing play (5.1).

    In correlation, Vikings’ QB Sam Bradford, who has delivered dreadfully low numbers of late due to a banged-up offensive line, still stands nine spots above him in the final category.

    Keep your jaw hanging, though. It doesn’t end there.

    In terms of taking care of the ball, Osweiler throws the ball to the opponent on 3.3 percent of his passes, the eighth-highest proportion among QBs with at least 50 attempts. The list behind him isn’t filled with impressive names, consisting of Case Keenum, McCown, Jay Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Blaine Gabbert, Matt Barkley and Derek Anderson.

    In total, Osweiler is tied for first in interceptions (13) and slides in at No. 21 in touchdown passes (12), tied with Bengals QB Andy Dalton. If matters could be any worse, his 2,307 yards rank No. 24, with the inexperienced Trevor Siemian positioned slightly ahead.

    Even though Siemian has the luxury of learning from former QB and now-head coach Gary Kubiak in Denver, O’Brien is no slouch, either. Before returning to college football in 2012, he was the offensive coordinator in New England.

    Considering Houston owned the same record (6-5) at this point a season ago, Texans’ supporters might want to recall the various starters under center: Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett, T.J. Yates and Brandon Weeden. Their combined productivity delivered a shot at the AFC South crown and the team ended up cashing in.

    With the Tennessee Titans now sitting just a half-game behind the Texans for first place and on a tear offensively, averaging the seventh-most points per game (25.7) in the league, apprehension should already be surrounding Osweiler.

    Compare his numbers to Hoyer’s, who played in 11 regular season contests in 2015-16, manufacturing 2,606 yards, 19 touchdowns and only seven interceptions. While he executed dreadfully in a 30-0 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Wild Card Game, Hoyer’s stat line hangs over Osweiler’s output in an identical amount of games.

    Along with that, when Hoyer was at quarterback, wideout DeAndre Hopkins flourished with 1,038 yards and seven scores. With Osweiler under center, the 24-year-old weapon has totaled merely 610 yards, No. 41 among wide receivers, and three touchdowns. He has only one 100-plus yard game, too. You do the math.

    Looking ahead at Houston’s remaining schedule, Osweiler will face three top-20 passing defenses (Jacksonville Jaguars, Cincinnati Bengals and Green Bay Packers) over the final five games. Nonetheless, between Osweiler’s contract and the depth behind him, composed of journeymen backups Tom Savage and the aforementioned Weeden, he’s not headed to the bench anytime.

    In order to turn his season around, he must work on his reads on a down-to-down basis. Starting with Hopkins wouldn’t hurt. If not, Osweiler may be filing himself in with the other ordinary quarterbacks in the Texans’ history books.
     
  19. Rodman23

    Rodman23 .GIF

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    5,832
    Likes Received:
    3,535
    this is great lol
     
  20. Fulgore

    Fulgore Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    16,263
    Likes Received:
    14,951
    Embarrassing
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now