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Thinking Basketball's Ben Taylor and his constant slander of James Hardens impact in NBA History?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by HardenVolumeOne, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. HardenVolumeOne

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    James Harden is constantly disrespected by this man, also why would ben taylor include harden's 2017 season.. and not do hardens seasons from 2018-2020.. seems like he added 2017 to drag harden's advanced real true shooting relative to era down a notch

    It seems like this guy is a grifter who plays and strokes the ego of players in the league with the biggest fanbases so they can spend more money on his articles and his backpicks data.

    Ben taylor when harden was traded to the nets said he expected the nets to be MARGINALLY better offensively, but that their offense would not approach any of the warriors team offensive ratings from 2016-2019.. Ben was wrong yet again, not only did the 2020 nets set an nba record for team true shooting percentage and team effective field goal percentage, they also set a new record in team offensive rating. One can make a case that the new rules were put into place because of the brooklyn nets and how dominant they were offensively when healthy. Keep in mind the nets set these records with harden only playing 36 regular season games, and the durant and kyrie being in and out of the lineup

    Also from 2018-2020 according to raptor 538's metric harden was the best player in the league for 3 years straight. Wade outside of 09 and maybe 2010 never had the numbers to be considered the best player in the league



    But back to my point, i found this on reddit.

    Ben Taylor


    "Who created the most equity, or value by virtue of their scoring?"




    10) 2015-2017 Steph Curry: 29 PPG, +8 rTS

    Pros: Elite mix of volume and efficiency, potential GOAT tier scalability, incredible portability, elite volume with low usage, volume barely wavers in all instances when his efficiency rises on elite teams and vice versa, GOAT off-ball player whether it be relocating or cutting or acting as a decoy, great shot selection, GOAT shooter, incredible handles and great finishing, led elite offenses, can carry heavier loads (2019, without Durant in a good sample size, 31 PPG, +7 rTS) can be as high as top 5.

    Cons: Injuries hamper his stats and rhythm and are a massive concern, significant amount of turnovers in the playoffs, smaller height can be EXTREMELY exploitable in the playoffs.



    9) 2009-2011 Dwayne Wade: 30 PPG, +6.5 rTS

    Pros: Elite volume, good efficiency, rim pressure is all time great and is extremely dependable, all time great first step makes him unstoppable and borderline unguardable, extremely strong when going to the rim, elite foul drawer in the playoffs, underrated offball skills, good midrange shot, led good offenses, incredible frame that let him finish around anyone.

    Cons: Scalability is a concern due to lack of spacing, often held back the Heatles offenses because the fit with Lebron was bad, lack of a jumpshot can be an issue in the playoffs, free throw dependency is also a small concern, and efficiency isn't all time.



    8) 2007-2009 Kobe Bryant: 30.5 PPG, +6.5 rTS

    Pros: Historically great volume paired with elite efficiency, EXTREMELY underrated offball scoring due to his overall scoring threat and shooting, great catch and shoot scorer and elite finisher, great at contorting his body, GOAT tough shot maker, elite skill, an incredible arsenal of attacks and counters that lead to dependable playoff scoring, elite post scoring, thrived in a variety of elite offenses, could be as high as top 5.

    Cons: Athleticism and skill never peaked for a lengthy period of time, shot selection could be a massive issue, efficiency isn't all time.



    7) 2017-2019 Kevin Durant: 29.5 PPG, +10 rTS

    Pros: Elite volume paired with all time great efficiency, all time great 3 level scoring, borderline unblockable shot because of his height, elite handles for a big, 3 point shooting could stretch bigs to the perimeter, great mid post scoring, great offball scoring, elite isolation scoring, very scalable and portable, could be as high as top 5.

    Cons: Handles, while good for a player his size, were still a weakness, played with multiple incredible offensive engines, and on elite teams, impact of scoring isn't all time by ScoreVal.



    6) Jerry West (No Stats Available)

    Pros: Elite scorer ahead of his time, tremendous handle, great pull up shot, omnidirectional ability which was far ahead of his time, great shooting form and quick release, could stretch the floor and attack the basket, powers through contact effectively, quick decision maker, face up scoring, good amount of counters, great transition scorer and could generate free throws, projects to be similar to Kobe in the modern era.

    Cons: Extremely difficult to gauge his effectiveness as a guard due to the era differences.



    5) 1977-1979 Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 28 PPG, +12 rTS

    Pros: Great volume paired with historic top tier all time efficiency, extremely dominant in the ScoreVal metric, historically great post scoring and skills, consistent scoring and consistently elite, elite longevity in scoring, good amount of counters, mobile for his size, the most unstoppable move in NBA history with the skyhook.

    Cons: Great but not all time scoring, could be limited by strength, didn't have a high ceiling in terms of scoring.



    4) 2000-2002 Shaquille O'Neal: 31.5 PPG, +7.5 rTS

    Pros: Historic volume paired with elite efficiency and thrives in the ScoreVal metric, is utterly unstoppable in the post, is a mismatch with every player on the court, almost always takes the most efficient shots in the paint, can cause frontcourts to foul out, is almost unguardable.

    Cons: Some of the efficiency can be attributed to putbacks which can be considered as inflation, limits spacing and 5 out offenses, free throws heavily limit his efficiency, limited shot selection variety.



    3) 2009-2011 Dirk Nowitzki: 30 PPG, +10 rTS

    Pros: All time volume and all time efficiency, incredible shooter, incredible finisher, elite off ball and can finish coming off 3s, great at catch and shoot 3s, projects to be incredibly scalable, would be able to increase either efficiency or volume without losing too much of the other attribute, great strength, very mobile, an incredible fadeaway, elite variety of moves such as a mid post shot, step back shot, face up scoring, up fakes, 3 level scoring.

    Cons: Not explosive which can be an issue because of the size, could often be slowed by double teams.



    2) 2012-2014 Lebron James: 30.5 PPG, 10% rTS

    Pros: All time volume and all time efficiency, could rise up into otherworldly volume and keep efficiency into elite regions, great variety in scoring by his Heat years, all time slashing and finishing, GOAT level transition scoring, great jumpshot, above average 3 point shooting, could catch and shoot to counter drop coverages, elite back to the basket skills in the post, great post scoring and a fadeaway, insane frame and unstoppable athleticism, elite IQ. (Averaged an unadjusted 33.5 PPG on a rTS of 8% without Dwayne Wade in a decent sample size, averaged an unadjusted 26 PPG and 9% rTS with Dwayne Wade in a great sample size.)

    Cons: Scalability could be a minor concern.



    1) 1989-1991 Michael Jordan: 34 PPG, +10 rTS

    Pros: GOAT tier volume by a wide distance and historically elite efficiency. Like Shaq, generates the most efficient shots, but does it in a more versatile manner, incredibly scalable and portable scoring, could adjust his scoring or efficiency and still be elite in the other attribute, (Averaged 35 PPG on +8 rTS in 1991-1993). Potentially the greatest first step ever, potentially the quickest to shift from the first step into the pullup, incredible frame that makes all aspects of scoring more efficient, and all time athleticism allows him to have GOAT tier hang time, which gives him fantastic looks from the midrange and around the rim, massive hands makes finishing much easier and allows for fakes, can finish around the best centers ever, thrived in an era with limited spacing, could contort his body into shield himself from contact in order to finish, elite free throw drawer and shooter, elite and underrated off ball scorer and utilized screens very well, great decision maker, incredibly skilled and had a Kobe-like amount of attacks and counters, incredibly aggressive and an all time slasher as well as an elite midrange shot, solidly in the number 1 spot.
     
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    Ben Taylor is a smart guy who clearly has a bias against Harden. That’s unfortunate because a lot of his work is really good.
     
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    Can you provide a link to whatever post/article you are copying and pasting from?
     
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    Found it:


    Missing from the OP’s post is that this is strictly about playoff numbers. And the question that starts the post is this: "Who created the most Championship equity, or value, in the playoffs, by virtue of their scoring?"



    Why is the word “Championship” removed in the question quoted by the OP?

    And he does provide an honorable mention for Harden:


    2017-2019 James Harden: 30 PPG, +2 rTS

    Pros: Great volume, historically elite at extracting value from his game, highly efficient shot taking from layups, 3s and free throws, playoff woes can be overstated.

    Cons: Very low efficiency relative to other elite scorers, foul drawing is too inconsistent in the playoffs, efficiency would drop a notable amount when defensive coverages would adjust, efficiency didn't scale up when given the opportunity to do so.​
     
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    Maybe OP is trying to slander Ben Taylor. :D
     
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    Ben Taylor? Never heard of him.
     
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    2020 harden was hardens best season p4p.. 2017 he was horribly defensively

    from 2018-2020 harden was top 2 or 3 player in the world, regardless of what the media said.. and 538 raptor proves my point
     
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    media conspiracy
     
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    The Reddit post is dated March 2020. During the pause to that regular season. The post is specifically about the playoffs. So your chief criticism of the post is that it was made a year too early and isn’t about the regular season?
     
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    Delete. Was kind of a d- bag post. Sorry
     
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    /thread.
     
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    Ben Taylor THE ANTI-JAMES HARDEN GRIFTER( because trashing james Harden makes wade and kobe stans feel less insecure) strikes once again

    This basketball grifter has the nerve to claim that james harden has suffered the most with the new rules.. and rather than say damian lillard( because damian lillard is somewhat of a babyface in the NBA), he trashes james harden.. because WHY THE HELL NOT... TRASHING JAMES HARDEN IS GOOD FOR MY WEBSITE AND MY TRASH BIAS ANALYSIS

    HERE IS THE VIDEO IN THE QUESTION( time stamped).. Every single foul he claimed harden was initiating were handchecks and fouls, then he goes on to use a play where ja morant blows by a defender as a way of using handchecking( when the defender never touched Ja on that play)

    If Ben Taylor wasnt grifting he would have the balls to say that the most affected player according to the early nba season analysis is DAME DOLLA..

    but dame brings clicks to mr taylors website so cant use him lol, lol this is why i always said this dude was a grifter and a clown with bias analysis


     
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    Also i dont see this happening, but it would be criminal if the liberal media ran with this lie that harden is having a bad season as an excuse to not vote him an all-star this year, i already know they will screw him out of another all-nba selection. But im just watching and waiting for the predictable screw-job out of an all-star spot.. Probably gonna give it to light and damn near white zach lavine
     
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    and look at all the dumbass fans in his comment section of that video just eating all the lies this lowlife is saying up. Not even realizing that by the advanced stats harden is still a top 10 player, he just isnt playing at a top 5 level because he came into the season injured.. But even if harden was playing at a top 5 level, its not like the media wouldn't have someone like luka or anthony davis ahead of him in their rankings like they've done for years anyways lol
     
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    The communists strike again.
     

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