Seems odd since he technically he will not be signed until later. They would only own the rights to sign him right?
Probably some dumb cap rule where the 4 million would technically remain on the original team's books.
Houston's 1-1 pick value: 3,000 Atlanta's 1-6 pick value: 1,600 Atlanta's 2-38 pick value: 520 Atlanta's 3-70 pick value: 240 Atlanta would have to give us a lot to move up from 6 to 1. Likely their 2nd rounder + a first rounder from next season.
i don't think the NFL pick value scales are relevant anymore given how much more important the draft and the rookie pay scale are under the new collective bargaining agreement.
How about their 1st 6th overall, 3rd and next years 1st That seems very fair for us getting value and if Atlanta feels they are going to be good next year it is a late 1st and a 3rd
On it's face, it would seem that trading would've been harder before the rookie pay scale with more money going to the #1 pick and most likely a larger difference in salaries between the #1 and #6 picks.
That's what I would hope they could get in return but I would also be happy with their 2nd and 3rd round pick in this year's draft or two 2nd round picks (this year's and next year's). The more picks the Texans can get in the 2nd and 3rd round of this year's draft the better.
Oh was he just talking about a trade scenario? There's no way they pick someone only to trade him later, honestly there is very little chance that they do anything other than just picking Clowney and moving on to the 2nd round.
no idea. wasn't trying to undermine your post, just thinking that there is no way those value charts can be accurate anymore with the increased value of picks. I suppose it actually comes down to what the market will bare as opposed to some prescribed formula. my point is that i don't really see how we can know what moving back is truly worth, until we know what is being offered. In this case the market will set the value, as opposed to the formula setting the value. there are likely more teams that want to move back rather than up, basically rendering the formula useless.
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If that happens I would trade down with Atlanta then keep trading down. I would love for them to end up with about 6 picks in the first 3 rounds if possible. So many freaking holes on this team.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>To change spots with the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a>, it would likely cost <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Falcons&src=hash">#Falcons</a> a second and another pick this year and next year No.1. Terms negotiable.</p>— Ed Werder (@Edwerderespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/statuses/459463850362822656">April 24, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dolphins jumped from 12 to 3 for cost of No. 42 overall last year. LRT cant be right. Who is setting that cost? It has to be the Texans.</p>— Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/statuses/459467668551004160">April 24, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>So per those proposed terms, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Falcons&src=hash">#Falcons</a> would surrender No. 6 overall, No. 37 overall & 2015 1st-round pick to move up 5 spots in the draft.</p>— Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/statuses/459470804636688385">April 24, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'd trade down for this: Texans trade : number 1 (Clowney) Flacons trade: number 6 (Mack or Manziel), this years second round pick, next year's first. That's a great trade. If Clowney is truly the generational talent they say, that's what it's for to cost. I'd only do this deal is Manziel or Mack is available at 6. With next years pick, you take Andre Johnson's replacement.