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The Texans #1 Draft Pick Thread (2.0)

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Apr 3, 2014.

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What should the Texans do with the #1 Pick?

Poll closed May 1, 2014.
  1. Anthony Barr

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  2. Blake Bortles

    0.3%
  3. Teddy Bridgewater

    9.4%
  4. Jadeveon Clowney

    56.8%
  5. Khalil Mack

    1.9%
  6. Johnny Manziel

    26.6%
  7. Jake Matthews

    1.6%
  8. Greg Robinson

    1.0%
  9. Sammy Watkins

    0 vote(s)
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  10. Undecided

    2.3%
  1. Rudyball

    Rudyball Contributing Member

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    Robinson, Mack or Clowney - we are so deplete we need all 3 of them so take your pick at 1.1 but keep shoring up the O & D lines, then linebacker, Dbacks then Safety. We need BPA at each.
     
  2. Remii

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    I think playing Clemson and UCF skewed those rankings. But the rankings are the rankings.

    So you're saying 75% of the time Clowney wasn't double teamed (actually more than that because being chipped is a lot different than being doubled)... And he still only had 3 sacks and was weak against the run.... WoW...!!! That's even worst. Thanks for correcting me :)
     
  3. Cannonball

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    I wouldn't say you need Robinson. Yeah, we have a hole at RT, but you shouldn't need a first round pick, let alone #1, to fix it. If you have a hole at LT? Yes. RT? Eh, not so much.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Good information. When you are chipping or doubling a guy 25% of the time, that's probably north of 70% of passing downs easily, which is why people would say that he was "always doubled" because they are only talking about passing downs. Your data pretty much says what everyone has been saying for a long time, that he was doubled or chipped more often than anyone else, playing against better players than anyone else.
     
  5. Remii

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    Considering the right side of the line was garbage and the left wasn't that great and the fact that our all world best offensive weapon Foster is "supposedly" healthy and we just added another running back who is good when he's healthy _ Robinson would be an excellent add.

    The "physical freak" tag should probably go to either Robinson or Donald (or both) in this draft.
     
  6. Raven

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    Agree 100%.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    I'd be interested to see numbers on Mack since he's in the conversation, obviously his SOS would be a joke, but I'd bet that the percentage of plays where he was doubled or chipped would be in the single digits as well
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    Could someone tell me which one out of Clowney, Barr and Mack had the stronger SOS?
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Seriously? Clowney, obviously. It's not at all close either.
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    Thanks.
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    That's in the rough area of what I told Bobbythegreat, and he told me I was crazy, and he was double/triple teamed on every play, so I feel pretty damn good about what I said. I would have said never on running plays, and about 40% on passing plays. I also told Bobby he was chipped by a rb/te a whole lot more than a double by 2 linemen. So yeah, spot on. Often on running plays he was completely neutralized by only a RB or TE which was surprising to me since he was supposedly the greatest evah.
     
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  12. mhch720

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    He's a WR from Vanderbilt, projected to go in the 2nd round.
     
  13. King1

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    Are you seriously advocating Barr for the 1st pick?
     
  14. gucci888

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    Clowney for sure but UCLA wasn't that far behind IMO. Nebraska, Arizona State, and USC were all ranked. Oregon was #3 when they played them and Stanford was in or around the Top 10 all season long.
     
  15. zeeshan2

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    Guess the Bucs are heavily considering taking Manziel at 7
     
  16. Ricksmith

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    Much better.

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  17. Bobbythegreat

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    I agree 100%.
     
  18. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tim Hasselbeck on Teddy Bridgewater: &quot;Really good system QB in a West Coast offense.&quot; Compared TB to Alex Smith w/o Smith's running ability.</p>&mdash; Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/statuses/459027210943201281">April 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  19. Cannonball

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    There are multiple pages in these threads where I can't see a single post.
     
  20. Cannonball

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    I think my dream scenario at this point would be to draft Clowney #1, trade him to Atlanta for Mack (taken at #6) plus picks, get Bridgewater at #33 and somebody like Ra'shede Hageman at #37. That's an extreme longshot though.
     

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