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The Rockets have possibly the WORST practice facility in the league.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. luckyman

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    So you're not familiar with the fact that the Saints GM heavily involved in running the Pelicans was just a rumor? A rumor Mickey Loomis shot down multiple times and nobody seemed to want to listen? He was basically just another set of eyes that didnt do much.

    And players are paid from the league salary cap pool, merch sales, and whatever local and national endorsements they can get. Last I checked, in this social media/internet age, players in any market can and do land the same deals as those in larger markets. Thats not to say they are exactly equal, but the gap isn't as large as it might have been in the 80s/90s. And the New Orleans arena fills when the team is winning just fine, and not so much when the team is losing. Same as Houston.

    And the owner being a billionaire does count. Click on the dots to see the Pelicans practice facility from back in 2015.

    http://www.markwag.com/project/gray-bag-mock-up/

    That owner just spent another $20 million on what was already there this summer. No taxpayer money involved.

    My main point is OP just seemed shocked the Pelicans could possibly have nicer amenities than the Rockets. LOL come on man.
     
  2. vick

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    You also have to leave a, 100% tip that goes to Tilman.
     
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    There isn't a cash prize for a championship sure you get more tv and tix sales for making the finals but I dunno if that's enough to build a practice facility worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

    You can't even prove a bigger practice facility leads to a championship Boston has an amazing practice facility they didnt even get past 2nd round. The only thing a practice facility needs is a court and two hoops, players wanna get shots up they can go to the gym or even their own backyard for practice. I dont see how multiple floors and wider space with their own lockers, kitchen etc is gonna tangibly help their performance. Dallas' ps4s on their lockers didnt stop them from being a lotto team.

    Since its not my money, obv I would love it if Tillman went broke spending on my team. But I dont see how not spending money on a multi story practice center is gonna be seen as an "excuse". I would also love it if all Billionaires donated their wealth to fix global warming. Its super easy to tell other people how to spend their money lmao.
     
  5. bmd

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    Every team can pay their players, but not every team is willing to pay luxury tax or spend money in other ways.

    And no, the Pelicans attendance isn’t great, and they have the lowest ticket prices in the league. The average ticket price for a Rockets game is like $85. The average price for a Pelicans game is like $35. And the average price of a ticket to a Warriors game is like $250.

    The Pelicans have the cheapest tickets in the league and still don’t have great attendance.

    They means the Warriors are making over $200 million per regular season just in ticket sales compared to the Pelicans’ $23 million. They doesn’t even take into account all of the other sales during a game, merchandise, etc. Even the Rockets make $63 million Inc ticket sales, which is $40 million more than the Pelicans per year.

    The Pelicans are one of the poorest teams in the league.
     
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    I wonder where the Rockets will build.
     
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    Damn … 3 years later, worst team in the NBA. :D

    And no practice facility!

    THANKS TILMAN!
     
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    They can just empty out one his crappy restaurants and build a court inside. It would be doing Houston a favor.
     
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    you certainly have a **** ton of time on your hands lmao wtf. Who researches practice facilities? Lol. I commend your diligence. But Does having multiple courts help in terms of more wins and a championship? Until you can prove that let me know. Lol
     
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    Not sure but it might double as a casino in the evenings
     
  14. Stephen_A

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    Simple case of grass is greener. Mommy why did that kid get a cell phone and I can’t!
     
  15. Stephen_A

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    Do you know how they run scrimmages? Are multiple courts required to run scrimmages and drills? Why would a bigger facility make practice more efficient? If you can tell me that then your argument would make a little sense.
     
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    Tilman will build it if he is allowed to move the team is Vegas.
     
  17. MorningZippo

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    Lmao, the idea that winning is somehow not equivalent to making more money is astoundingly stupid. Spending money and losing is bad, but the idea that winning doesn't increase franchise earnings is just.. wow.
     
  18. Kevooooo

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    Did we just find a new use for the astrodome?!
     
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    Now you're ptuting the onus on who to prove that better facilities is more conductive to a winnign culture?

    ITs about status quo. The rest of the league didn't sit their and wait for a thesis research when Davidson owner of pistons bought the first private plane. The sixers, nets, clippers, jazz...spurs above and every other team and warriors didn't pour in hundreeds of milliosn or more on new facilities, eateries inside their facilities, specified coaches, sauna rooms...

    "
    Griffin then goes on to talk about how things have changed since Steve Ballmer bought the team.

    “Ballmer wants to win no matter the cost,” Griffin wrote. “Donald Sterling didn’t care if we won — at least if it meant he had to spend money. It wasn’t just about spending money on players. For years, our training staff wanted to buy this sophisticated computer software that would let them scan our bodies and keep track of our progress throughout the season. Sterling wouldn’t sign off on it.

    “When I walked into the training facility for the first time this summer, the entire vibe was different. People were smiling. From the security people to the game operations staff to the office staff, everybody seemed happy to be there. For the first time ever, they were on permanent contracts. Under Sterling, all the staff were on temporary contracts. Top to bottom, everybody just appreciates being appreciated now."

    So yea, they don't need proof to pour in the money, but it is become status quo. Its no different from your job or any ofours. lets say you are a high earner, or a high revenue generator...you will have options on where to work. The players, at least te great ones, as well as staff have options. So if one environment is old and 'good enough' kinda like sterlings quote above, where as another goes out of their way to make all the stops so you don't have to think abotu anything but hooping...all the details are covered, they go above and beyond for recovery, nutrition ,coaching, facilities just feel good, are new, and you are loving coming to work the other one makes you a bit more sluggish...its human nature and not exclusive to basketball. Thats why these big titans o business are pouring money into it like startups. Warriros are anotehr example, they invested a blank check like google wanting to create a campus bubble so the players just havea culture of working and wanting to come into work. beyond what is standard for their already elite level

    So yea, if you look at it from the owners position, you will see it as justified bc thats the prism you are looking at it from. if you look at the rest of the league par, and who we are matching with and where we are falling behind,we ll frankly thats when we want 1A talent...they will go elsewhere. People get mad a Daryl, but one job requires you to take the owner making your job harder by going to the pressu, lying about the budget, and oyu gotta train and answer to his child, another owner says here the check, make it worth it, but go win. Likewise with harden, jordan, kobe, youy name it. They arent' goign to take some A-hole putting himself first, this is not a margin business...its a showcase piece and they beenefit no matter what.


    And then to the guys who think harden is a diva...this is once again standard place in the nba, you have to look at whats on par in this leaguge...Ask the Rockets great...Hakeem
     
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  20. Stephen_A

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    there were so many things going on in your post. But where does it say that a bigger practice facility generate wins? Where does it say bigger courts make players happier? Where does it say in your example did the Clippers culture change because of a practice facility?
     

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