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The Real Sad Story of Baltimore

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Jul 31, 2019.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Baltimore is the home of America's first black middle class.

    Now its one of America's worst ghettos. Its a microcosm of the decline of black neighborhoods since integration.

    I think whats going to ultimately happen is that which is what is already happening is poor blacks will be left to these neighborhoods and unfortunately will become a permanent lower class in terms of education and economics as middle and upper class blacks continue to integrate
     
  2. BruceAndre

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    And the reason for that is the welfare state.
     
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    Build a wall around Baltimore.
     
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    Welfare programs are determined through income level. A poor white person has the same access to welfare programs as a poor black person.

    So are you implying that "black culture" or the black predisposed genes are more prone to being lazy when having the opportunity to recieve help through government assistance?
     
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    I think I had this conversation before with toy. Yes, desegregation has allowed young black children to aspire to be proffesions such as lawyers, engineers etc at a much higher rate than before segregation was banned. Those professions often are not found in one's home neighborhood they were raised in. That goes with any community. White kids who succeed also move out of their home they were raised in. There even is a derogatory term for white kids in poorer Massachusetts towns who never left their neighborhood "townie". It implies they never obtained a high skilled proffesion and never moved out.
     
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    I am not touching this thread with a 10' pole.
     
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    lolol at integration in Baltimore.

    Sometimes the more you think you know. The less you actually do.
     
  9. KingCheetah

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    Yet you can't help but bring up a painful racial stereotype.
     
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    I am prepared to learn something new. School me...
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    The heroin explosion of the late 60's and early 70's deserves a mention, then came the crack boom.
     
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    Smack, crack we want our city back.
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    White neighborhoods dont turn into Baltimore

    Nobody is lamenting integration. You're missing the point. Baltimore was home to America's first black middle class. Th didn't have to leav tobe lawyers and doctors. They already were

    You think youre so progressively but you cant imagine successful black communities like Baltimore's once was.

    You think black kids NEED to be with massah
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    No doubt

    In every black community
     
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    Instead of integration, it might be more interesting to research the impact of the decline in manufacturing jobs in the US since the 1970s and how it has impacted blacks at a higher rate than whites.

    When the country began opening up to better opportunities for black people, the road to the middle class was clear: manufacturing jobs. Sure, just like white kids, plenty of black kids wanted to grow up to be lawyers and doctors, but just like most white families, manufacturing was the surer bet. You could build a stable middle class family in a city with a factor job and then live there forever and your kids could either follow you or go on to bigger and better things.

    Those jobs started declining in the late 1970s and they hit blacks harder and faster than whites. Then there is an unfortunate compounding effect that comes from blacks, still living in pretty segregated situations, even if not by law, losing their jobs en masse when they already had higher unemployment numbers. Those neighborhoods would decline faster which just further speed up businesses leaving that were providing jobs.

    Ironically, black people's suffering may have helped white rural cities stave off the job losses for a little longer than if it had otherwise been "equally" distributed (job loss).
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Integration is about freedom not lawd we's can live with white folk now
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    When all the middle class leave a community its gonna decline. I don't see why people fight simple logic

    Unfortunately decline of strong homes goe beyond economics un terms of problems
     
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    Duh what's your point? If all the rich people left River Oaks it would decline, obviously.

    Economic factors are normally the number one driver of "problems." Home decay, divorce, crime, poor education, drug use, etc. all have strong correlation to employment/economic factors. Economic factors are the number 1 predictor in almost everyone of those.

    Neighborhoods with strong employment/high median income will be better in every single one of those categories, guaranteed.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    My point is Baltimore was once a nice city.

    Do poor white rural areas have the crime problems of Baltimore?

    Edit; Baltimore has ine of the highest murder rates
     
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    Poor rural areas have crime problems yes, not the same numbers because the population density is so much lower.

    In 2018 there was a report that the violent crime rate in rural areas climbed above the national average for the first time. There was a direct correlation with the rising crime rates in rural areas and the loss of jobs.
     

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