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The price of being different-Ohio transgender teen's suicide note: 'Fix society. Please.'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Northside Storm, Jan 11, 2015.

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    no look at the post made by M.G.
     
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    That post was entirely about depression, which is a side effect of the mental illness the boy was suffering with, it completely ignored the affliction that likely caused it. It's like talking about the effects of a fever while ignoring the meningitis that caused it.
     
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    You are inventing a sickness that doesn't exist.

    Transgender isn't caused by a mental illness, it's likely caused by a miswiring in the brain as how it aligns to the actual gender of a person. Modern psychology doesn't treat this like a mental illness that can be cured but rather something inherent in the person. It's not a fever someone gets, it's like being born without your left arm. There's nothing you can do about it.

    You are simply choosing to believe and distort things to back up your prejudice.
     
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    Was it also a "side effect" of unethical and wrongly advised "treatment" that qualifies as child abuse?
     
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    LOL, how many personality disorders can be "cured"? I was never suggesting that it was something that had a "cure", just something people had to deal with. Right now, they think the best treatment is to manage the side effects like depression with prescription drugs and try to do everything they can to play in to the delusion that they are the opposite sex. There's absolutely no "cure", and suggesting that there should be shows how little you know about psychology.
     
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    So, conversion therapy?
     
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    Were you under the mistaken impression that I supported that? Just because I'm not willing to blame the the mentally ill boy's suicide on it doesn't mean I support it in any way. There's a reason that most believe the best treatment for his condition would be doing all that is possible to play into his delusion rather than challenge it. That said, either way, he was at a very high risk of suicide due to his mental state.
     
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    Seeing as how you've become an expert on sexuality in humans and the DSM V, would you care to elaborate what her "condition" was (use the exact DSM definition), how the framers of the DSM V view it in terms of cultural context, and why the DSM V specifically states that gender reassignment surgery is the best treatment for said condition?
     
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    I was under the impression that you were using established medical literature to create some sort of proofing for your wildly inaccurate opinions, while refusing to caveat everything you say with the one point that would make you on-point: the condemnation of conversion therapy and the deliberating effect it had on this case, which is highlighted in every which way through this example, and throughout the DSM.

    I find it amusing how you can use your "knowledge" to represent that you know better than the woman who wrote her own suicide note on what she was thinking, especially when your knowledge consists of using sex and gender interchangeably, and not recognizing the difference between DSM IV and V.

    If you're citing the DSM V on this, you are blaming conversion therapy for the woman's suicide. I hope that gets through, rather than the weak-willed endabout you've used to paint yourself out of supporting the 21st century equivalent of bloodletting.
     

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