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The official James Harden is not a legitimate #1 option thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hikanoo49, Jan 19, 2013.

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  1. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

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    I think the guy posted the thread title wrong.

    Substitute 'Monta Ellis' for 'James Harden' and then we can talk.

    But to compare the stats and even then suggest they are similar is completely r****ded... Harden's stats are superior in every single category - yet somehow he's = to Joe Johnson?!?!?
     
    #141 DrNuegebauer, Jan 19, 2013
  2. ryano2009

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    Your thread = 0 star
     
    #142 ryano2009, Jan 19, 2013
  3. RedNation

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    He wasn't even looking for his shot today.
     
    #143 RedNation, Jan 19, 2013
  4. nadman89

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    he doesnt have a pg that can pass or use his brain when shooters cant make 3s teams dbl team him no post presence makes him uselesss
     
    #144 nadman89, Jan 19, 2013
  5. IronicMan

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    People keeps talking about post presence. You think it will help Lin if there's a post presence? Having a post presence only helps if Lin has a decent jumper. Hakeem Olajuwon's posting up and kicks out to shooters? Anyone remember them? People needs to watch more NBA games seriously.
     
    #145 IronicMan, Jan 19, 2013
  6. roxxy

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    harden is SOOOO much better than Joe Johnson it isn't even funny. Harden is already so good & he still has room to be better. However, I do think that the Rockets need a PF who is there best player seeing as how our back court has two elite PNR Guards we need a PF who is just totally dominant. You a good team if Harden is your best player but you are an even better team if he is your second best player.
     
    #146 roxxy, Jan 19, 2013
  7. IronicMan

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    And to add to my previous post, this applies to Harden much more, since he's a much better lane penetrator. Post presence is overrated.
     
    #147 IronicMan, Jan 19, 2013
  8. Cazuquel

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    Harden the best!!
    You from clutchfans are a big joke!
     
    #148 Cazuquel, Jan 19, 2013
  9. Clutch

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    Chalk up another one who can't tell the difference between a ridiculous thread title that very, very few agree with ... and the collective opinion of the entire site.
     
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  10. teebone21

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    that's called inability to create your own shot
     
    #150 teebone21, Jan 19, 2013
  11. hikanoo49

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    5 for 18 tonight for Mr. #1 option :(
     
    #151 hikanoo49, Jan 19, 2013
  12. hikanoo49

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    Hi Clutch

    I don't see why the thread title is ridiculous as most of the responses were "oh, Harden is young and improving etc"

    My point is as of TODAY, Harden is not a legit #1 option which I still stand by my opinion and you look at our record now, we are getting blown out by teams like Minnesota w Harden as #1 guy and now on track for missing the playoffs AGAIN

    To me, we are still REBUILDING and in search of a #1 or hope one day soon Harden can develop into that role



     
    #152 hikanoo49, Jan 19, 2013
  13. hikanoo49

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    Here are Harden's last 3 games and needless to say we lost all 3

    Minnesota 5 for 18

    Indiana 5 for 19

    Dallas 5 for 23


    So 15 for 60!!!!

    As many posters stated, Harden doesn't need to play great defense as he is our scorer and "only guy" that can score consistantly etc. Well, Houston we have a problem is probably an understatement right now

     
    #153 hikanoo49, Jan 19, 2013
  14. TheGreat

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    He's an excellent scorer.

    Even if his FG % takes a hit, he still gets to the line over 8 times a game and makes his free throws at a high percentage.

    I think Harden needs a pick and roll type center/pf for him to be even more better.

    He would fit perfectly with a Tyson Chandler.
     
    #154 TheGreat, Jan 19, 2013
  15. AggNRox

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    then trade him to knicks.:grin:
     
    #155 AggNRox, Jan 19, 2013
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    I personally think Harden is a great offensive player, no doubt - he has shown he could score in many ways; I would add, he also has a good mid range game. He is just in a shooting slump right now, which I'm sure is temporary.
     
    #156 Bball_4life, Jan 19, 2013
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    It is easy to cherry pick stats like that. You can find a three game sample size of rough play for any great player.
     
    #157 roxxy, Jan 19, 2013
  18. Midixinormous

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    Harden is a legit #1.

    The issue is that we don't have a legit #2 to compliment him.
     
    #158 Midixinormous, Jan 19, 2013
  19. rocketlauch

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    I just searched Basketball Reference's Streak Finder...since 85-86, no player who's taken 18 shots or more, has made 5 or less in 3 straight games except for James Harden
     
    #159 rocketlauch, Jan 19, 2013
  20. hikanoo49

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    The NBA has a lot of these guys that can score

    If many guys had the freedom to shoot and dribble around like Harden, they can score 20+ points as well


     
    #160 hikanoo49, Jan 19, 2013
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