The official James Harden is not a legitimate #1 option thread

This has to be a troll, but this is honestly one of the worst threads started in a really long time. Congrats...I guess?

 

We are better off because we have a legitimate star player on the team.. Didn't have that before.

 

Too bad Harden is over the Hill...at 23

 

#1 you are a ****ing moron.
#2 at 23 years old Harden's numbers are already better
#3 Harden is not a " high volume shooter".
#4 The Rockets would win 20 games without Harden
#5 If Harden struggles the Rockets lose
#6 You are a ****ing idiot.

 

Take away FTs and Parsons has a better chance of being the number one scoring option.

 

Yes, magically after 3 years teams have figured him out. One day out of the blue they figured him out.

 

Honestly, TODAY does not matter because this team is not looking to win a championship this year...This is a team for the FUTURE. Harden will just keep getting better since he is 23, Lin is still necessarily a rookie so he will definitely mold into a much better pg through time, and Asik is playing extended minutes for the first time in his career. In due time, Harden will probably be the best SG in the NBA so as of today, I'm personally not too worried.

 

this team just needs real physical bigmen besides omer asik

and maybe a competent coaching staff

 

1) Name the players YOU consider "legitimate #1 options".
2) Regarding the stats you posted:

Joe Johnson
FG % 41.4
3 pt FG% 0.381
FT %0.748
Rebs 4.2
Assists 4.4
Steals 1.0
Pts 25.0

James Harden, Hou SG
FG% 44.2
3 pt FG % 34.1
FT % .852
Rebs 4.4
Asts 5.4
Steals 1.9
Pts 26.0

So...Harden (at 23, in his first half season as a starter) is better in ALL categories except 3 pt FG %, SIGNIFICANTLY better in some of those (like steals - double the amount per game - or FT% and TS%), yet you base your whole ridiculous attention-whoring thread on a comparison to Joe Johnson?

 

Yes because myopic vision is key to winning a ring. Rome was built in a day, the spurs have always been dominant, OKC emerged as an awesome team the second they drafted KD in Seattle, and even the great Miami Heat never had trouble winning games. Ok. Awesome. I'm glad you have educated me into the sport of basketball.

He's 23 and has tremendous upside. No draft pick has that much potential and has had a proven record of success. How many 1st round draft picks have NBA finals experience? Easy answer: 0. This is his 1st year as the #1 guy on a team, and it's a pretty damn good performance so far.

 

We never be national basketball champions of america until Jeremey Lin get more touch and fire racist mcfail!

 

Oh so Harden isn't a star? Who else is a real superstar? Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Melo etc? Harden gets to the line because he attacks the basket and often opponents have to foul him to stop him. Lately, he's getting foul on the way to the basket and the officials are ignoring him.

Every single star player in the league will get frustrated and struggle when they are getting foul and not getting any single calls. The more the officials ignore Harden, the more the opponents play more aggressive with him and hacking him more.

Any player would struggle when he's getting foul and opponents are being extremely physical with him and the officials just ignores him. Plus, defenses are zero in on him because our roster is not making any shots and are struggling. Other teams ignores some of our players and just focus their defense on Harden. When other players on the Rockets can start hitting shots and making defenses commit to them, then Harden can attack the basket. But other than that, defense will constantly target Harden and only Harden.

The coaching staff does not run any type of play that would help Harden except forcing Harden to play ISO or pick and roll with Asik... Plus playing him 40+ minutes a game and expecting him to put up big numbers every night will wear him out. He's only human and can't keep that up every night. Until other players on the team will start hitting their shots and make defenses respect them more, Harden will have a tough stretch coming up.

Lately, our PFs have been completely useless. That's an extra defender that is focusing on Harden because they know our PFs are not a threat, even when left wide open. Until Morris and Patterson can get it together, the opponents will have 2 defenders chasing Harden around...

 

Harden is good. Not Kobe, CP3, Lebron, Durant good, but maybe Dwayde in his prime good.

 

Ok so what is the hurry right now??? We arent in competition for anything, let them gel, let them find their spot and ffs just let them play.

 

Thank God you are not the Rockets GM... and for the 800th time, the statistics do not support Harden being a horrible defender.

 

Our defense was never a strong point. The reason why the Rockets were successful before was because our players were hitting their shots and the defense open up for Harden to penetrate and attack or kick out.

But lately our offense is lacking and we just can't make any shots. When the Rockets offense is clicking, their defense intensity rises. But when they're not making anything, their spirit on defense collapses also. Plus, you can't expect such a young and inexperience team to be a good defensive team. They still have a ton of holes to fill and this team is still in a rebuilding and learning process.

Again, the Rockets are the youngest team in the NBA and this is an entirely new roster and they are still trying to figure out one another. Harden is still learning and adjusting to being the leader on this team and carry this young team. I don't think Harden expected to be the main guy this early. But after this season, I'm sure Harden will work on some things that will make him more dangerous on the court and to lead a team better. He's still young and improving and his first year in Houston is pretty damn good.

 

WHY NOT!!!

Effort isn't something that you gain with age.. that concept is just silly.


Effort has to come from within and is independent of age. If everyone is giving effort then the team defense will cohere..

I think this one is one the coaching staff. They are unmotivational

 

Become a fan of another team...

 

Harden would be a legit #1 option with better role players around him. Namely at the point. A veteran point like Rondo would make Harden a more plausible #1 option. Also not losing 6 games in a row would help his case right now.

 

your wrong