I really hope this deal falls through. I’m sick to my stomach at how all this crap is playing out. Everyone on Kirby is clueless to say the ****in least. Here we are starting off the season on the wrong foot once again. Landry locker described it perfectly today; we let Bouye go only to still be looking for a replacement 3 yrs later. We trade Brown only to still be looking for a replacement 2 yrs later. And here we are trading Clowney, and in 2 years will probably still be looking for a replacement. They need to get someone in there who knows wtf they’re doing before BOB turns us into the Browns
Go ask Lamar Miller what can happen to your value after you suffer a season-ending injury in a meaningless preseason game. It’s simply smart business for a player on the franchise tag to avoid playing in meaningless preseason games. If they get seriously injured, they lose their shot at a huge payday in free agency. Blame the NFL for its contract structure, not the players holding out once they get tagged. Teams shouldn’t be allowed to tag players anyway. If you can’t build a winning team during his rookie contract nor are willing to offer him a competitive contract for his services, the player should be free to explore his options as a free agent once his rookie contract expires. Edited to reflect that franchise-tag salaries are guaranteed.
At this rate I'd just as soon trade a 2nd and 5th for Trent Williams, hold on to Clowney and either trade him this offseason or get the 3rd round comp pick when he walks.
That’s what happens when your head coach and GM jack off the whole off season letting cap space go to literal waste, while signing bums to fill in at marquee positions. Could’ve gotten a first and second AT LEAST for the guy. And here we are about to use a first and who knows what else just to dump him. If you would’ve told me this 3 months ago I’d have driven to Kirby and kicked Gaines ass outta town myself
If the Texans give up a 1st and Clowney for Tunsil, it confirms they are run by idiots. Clowney isn’t some scrub you throw in to seal a deal. It’s either Clowney and a lower pick (2nd at most), or a first straight up for Tunsil. Also, if the Dolphins were offered Clowney and a first for Tunsil and rejected it, they are run by morons or greedy personnel people, too.
Again... professional athletes are not blue collar workers or white collar workers. They are the labor and the product. You can say Clowney has to do X, Y, Z but history shows otherwise. Players have held out and some have been successful and some have not. It would be foolish for Clowney to just sign the FT and come to camp and lose any leverage. I have no issue with what Clowney has done. His allegiance is to himself and his family and not to a football team that doesn’t even want to give him a market value extension.
I don’t know if a trade happens, I have no inside information... but what I do know is based on track record, I would bet on the Texans over paying.
So would I. The Texans do not have a smart and savvy front office. They are reactive rather than proactive.
You clearly don’t understand the Texans O-line issue. Clowney is gone either way. Clowney and a first for Tunsil is a freaking steal if that’s what gets it done.
The Texans offensive line is a symptom of the disease, not the actual disease. The Texans need an enema to flush the arrogant, fat and bloated **** right into the toilet.
Yeah a steal for the Dolphins. Dee Ford went for a second. And Frank Clark went for a 1 and 2. Clowney is better than both
I clearly understand the Texans o-line problems, and I’m also completely on board with trading Clowney for Tunsil. However, trading Clowney and a first for Tunsil alone is a horrible value trade for the Texans. The Texans front office (Bill O’ Brien, cough, cough) needs to swallow its pride in regards to Clowney and not get hosed in a trade. He’s a 26-year-old Pro Bowl defensive end. Guys like him don’t grow on trees either. I’d be on board with trading Clowney and a first for Tunsil and a 3rd, due to years of control remaining on their respective contracts. But Clowney and a first for Tunsil by himself is simply too much. If that is the price to get Tunsil, I’d rather keep Clowney and offer the Redskins a first to get Trent Williams. Then, I have a Pro-Bowl-caliber defensive end and a Pro-Bowl-caliber left tackle. That’s the most optimal outcome for this season, anyway.
Clowney can’t be extended and a pro bowl LT might be the second most important position on the field.
Clowney is only in his first season on the franchise tag. The Texans could negotiate a long-term extension with him next offseason if they so choose, they just can’t do so right now. Also, you’ll get no argument from me about the importance of a Pro-Bowl left tackle. However, a Pro-Bowl defensive lineman is pretty important, too. Just ask Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald.
