Cassell I would put on this list but Cutler has shown to be a very good QB, one of the best? No, but I'd put him in the same category of Schaub where he has the potential to be in the top five in a few years. No mention of Roy Williams or Brandon Marshall?
I guess you can argue cutler hasn't been great, but still, btw is there a link to this, or did the OP write it?
Shoddily written article in list format, barely edited, (see e.g. the phrase "laughing stalk"), obviously by written by an amateur = probably comes from the Bleacher Report.
Don't give me so much credit. I am way worse than an amateur. The laughing-stock thing... I wish I had a better excuse than strange things happen after a six-pack Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA. Sorry, dude.
yep the back surgery really slowed him down quite a bit. That list seems to have some glaring ommissions......don't all the writers point for Culter fit even more so for tony romo?
I know Urlacher has lost some tread, but how many LBs in the NFL would win a head-on collision with Jerome Bettis, especially when he has some forward momentum.?
really? who's asking that question? other than you, i mean. did chicago ask it when they sent 2 1s and a 3 to denver? is that the going rate for a system QB? they won 3 games where the defense gave up 30 or more points (39-38, 34-32, 34-30). in their 8 losses, the defense gave up, on average, 33.4 points/game, including 41, 31, 30, 30 and 52. that's an astounding 8 games in which the defense gave up 30+ points. *8*. in fact, they held opponents to less than 20 points a mere 4 times. the fact they finished 8-8 in a minor miracle.
Lots of people have asked whether he can have the same success without Shanahan and that system. Just because you don't hear it doesn't mean it didn't happen. They certainly had a wretched defense. They also have had an average average offense under Cutler. 6th in the AFC last year - sccored less points than powerhouse offenses like Tennessee and the NY Jets, for example. In 2008, they were 9th in the AFC. Last year was of course their best with Cutler, and their offense scored less than they did under a medley of QBs in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. Shanahan's offenses have been consistently good-to-great with revolving players at QB and RB. Of those offenses, the ones under Cutler have scored less than those with guys like Plummer and Griese - of course, they also had more issues at RB the last few years as well. Which, again, leaves the open question as to how much of Cutler's numbers benefitted from being in that system.
oh, good - if lots of people have asked it, you shouldn't have any trouble producing one or 10 of them here, right?... the two aren't unrelated, major; a wretched defense - one that gives up 30 or more points in half your games - is going to take a toll on an offense. i've said repeatedly cutler didn't play well in their 3-game collapse. *but there never would have been a 3-game collapse had he not played so well in the first 13*. that's a 2-to-4 win defense, at best. only detroit and st. louis gave up more points last year, and they combined for 2 Ws. that they were 8-5 and in position to win a division is a credit to the offense and jay cutler. you can certainly toss *some* of the blame on cutler for the collapse. but to try and to saddle the entire thing on him, as the OP implied, is simply irresponsible, and even moreso when you do it with complete disregard for games 1-13. and defense. you forgot defense, football being a team game and all. average rank of denver's defense ('99-'05; '07-'08): griese ('99-'02): 11.25 (7th, 24th, 8th, 6th) plummer ('03-'05): 7.6 (4th, 4th, 15th) cutler ('07-'08): 24 (19th, 29th) (in 2006, when plummer/cutler split time, they ranked 14th) griese/plummer played with clinton portis, ed mccaffery, rod smith, shannon sharpe. and they played with, 2000 and 2005 aside, a defense that finished no lower than 8th. and even 15th (in 2005) is (slightly) above average and certainly not - let's say: 29th. cutler had weapons last year (marshall and royal) and took advantage. but his 2nd leading receiver in 2007 was tony scheffler. his leading rusher was selvin young. last year, it was peyton hills, who totaled a whopping 343 yards. and his defense ranked 19th and 29th. but sure, he "led" his team to a late-season collapse.
No. What point does the writer even make, other than the team cratered at the end of the season. Cutler didn't have a broken hand in the middle of the season, and half his offense wasn't decimated by injuries. And Dallas-hate all you want, but Romo is not 'bone-headed'. Now that Owens is gone, he won't have that specter hanging over his head of having to 'please' TO by throwing him more passes than he throws to Witten and everybody else. Oh and Dallas does not play in a weak division. So, no. And definitely no 'more so'.
Matt Cassell, not even close. 2 draft picks for a backup QB at best. I'd be weary of any deal or person coming from New England.
Cutler has never had a "above .500 season" and he has never made the playoffs yet he's the second coming of jesus. He's overrated. He's also part of the biggest choke in Denver history losing 3 games straight and the last one in blow out style to my Chargers... He's overrated. He's not bad but overrated. I'm waiting for someone to say Rivers so I can completely own them, or LT..
Sure. Josh McDaniels clearly had concerns, or he wouldn't have been trying to trade for another young, franchise QB. And the original poster who listed Cutler in his overrated list. There's 2. If you want more, go find them yourself. They are out there. I don't disagree. I never said Cutler was terrible. I said it's an open question whether he benefited from being in a system that has turned mediocre QBs into good ones in the past. This is a perfect example of what I was referring to in the other thread - you responding to what you want to read instead of what someone actually posts. I posted nothing about his responsibility in a late season collapse or that he was terrible or anything of the sort, yet that's all you focused on because that's what you wanted to read.
