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The Mike D'Antoni files

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dr of Dunk, May 30, 2016.

  1. SF3isBack!!

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    Yeah that Jeff van Gundy is a looker, lol. Not a lot of good looking coaches out there, lol.
     
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    Adelman ran his offense from the high post. There weren't a lot of iso post-up plays.

    Yao was a superb post scorer. But it's hard to argue that a Yao post is higher yield than a Battier corner 3. It's good to have the post-up as a change of pace but not as your bread and butter.

    MDA's inability to utilize Gasol is confounding. I think it might have as much to do with juggling egos as anything. You can't utilize Gasol well if Howard is on the floor and both want the ball in the post.
     
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    The game has changed a lot, but having a strong post up player is a constant threat, this will force the defense to collapse on him, and leave the corner 3 shooters open. A change of pace, is not the same thing. A 4 who can space the floor and defend, is needed just as much as from the 3 and guard spots.
     
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    Here's my concern.

    You can use a post up to open up so many other shots. Warriors do it constantly with split cuts, elbow screen and rolls, etc. Ball needs to get inside
     
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    Didn't someone post a video on how important it is for posting up to generate offense?

    Posting up does not necessarily results in post shot. It is a way to warp the defense.
     
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    Yes but if the defense is aware of that, then it won't warp the defense and it will clog the lane. Theoretically, if that guy sets a pick he's being far more productive, and definitely warping the defense.

    I don't necessarily agree, but that's the thinking.

    My view is that nothing short of Olajuwonesque quickness in the post combined with the ability to hit a 15ft jumper is useful anymore. You need guys who can react immediately in the post, and able to pass or shoot. Which is asking a lot. So if you can't get all of that, you're better off resorting to 3's and PnR than posting the person up.
     
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    How many strong post players are left in the game? Legit question. Capela led the league in the playoffs with 3 points per possession on his only post -up :cool:

    Seriously though, have a look:

    http://stats.nba.com/league/player/...5-16&SeasonType=Regular Season&PerMode=Totals

    The best post-up player was KD, who used it 8% of the time. After that, it's a big drop off to guys like Diaw and West who are on their way out of the league. Then Millsap and Dirk and a couple other Spurs (Kawhi/Boban) but now you're already near the bottom quartile for point efficiency at less than 1 point per possession.

    By these data, the best post scorer, including volume in the determination, is probably Dirk followed by Aldridge. Boogie was up there but it's one of his least efficient play types. It's just not a great option anymore.
     
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    Yes - this is about the only way you can use it. A change of pace or to keep the defense on its toes. But you could argue that having someone like Curry warps the defense even more effectively, and a Curry 3 is a lot more efficient than anyone's post up.
     
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