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The Formal Impeachment Inquiry of Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. mick fry

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    Yeah she has since walked it back, she was promptly put back in her place.
     
  2. Nook

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    They haven’t lost her. They didn’t have her to begin with. If anything they are more likely to get her support.

    None of it matters; there is nothing that can happen that will convince enough Republicans in the senate.

    It hasn’t been a good week for the President but at the end of the day he will not be removed.

    How will it impact November? We will see.
     
  3. No Worries

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    Serious question ...

    If the Senate votes to remove Trump from office, can he still continue on his re-election campaign?
     
  4. dobro1229

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    No. The vote to convict and remove states he cannot hold any position within the government or something like that. He can however lose in 2020 and then run again in 24 I believe.
     
  5. mikol13

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  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I thought he could unless they take an additional step in the process to specifically prevent it.
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    Inevitable... I guess it was going to be either this lie or "I never met him"...

     
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  8. dobro1229

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    It’s part of the vote. For judges they always include the language “and hold any distinguished position in government”. I guess some could vote to remove that part or include that as a separate vote which would be odd for a Republican to vote to remove him but not vote to bar him from holding future office.
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    trump pleading with senate retrumplicans to block john bolton and other witnesses and evidence... and, of course, lies in the process... (also noting jonathan turley was a republican expert witness)

     
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    Only the best people.
     
  12. leroy

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    But he hired him as NSA anyway.
     
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    I know it's frustrating for a lot of us, but the answer is never.
    Trump never questions himself, and his followers and sycophants don't see questioning his judgment as a possible option, at all. It just doesn't seem to enter their consciousness.
     
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  15. NewRoxFan

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    I don't have the legal background to comment too deeply on this, but it sure seems to me that at least these three republican senators (collins, murkowski, romney) believe trump had "illegitimate" (aka corrupt?) motives.



    Seems that allowing trump to do something with illegitimate (corrupt) motives is impeachable, regardless if there could be "legitimate" motives as well. Otherwise every criminal will claim they also had legitimate motives ("well your honor, I wanted to be able to avoid being a welfare drain on the taxpayers, so I robbed that bank").
     
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    Dershowitz argument that since Trump thinks he's the greatest president ever that he can do anything that he thinks will get him re-elected...was funny as hell.
     
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    trump lawyer all but acknowledges trump illegitimate motive...

     
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    If Dershowitz thinks financial gain is the only impeachable offense, maybe we should impeach Trump for the tax cut instead.

    Apparently, even if president does something obviously against the will of the whole electorate, s/he gets a free pass because s/he thinks s/he is the greatest president ever and thus has a free pass for 4+ years as long as no money is directly exchanged.

    Bunch of crock.

    Edit: also requires to have an administration staffed full of psychos but such assumption doesn't seem all that surreal these days
     
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  19. NewRoxFan

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    A different trump lawyer...

     
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  20. NewRoxFan

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    More acknowledgement from trump's lawyers that trump committed illegitimate acts...

     

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