The End Of A Republican Party

I enjoy reality. I said they would both be terrible presidents. You conveniently left out her hiring DWS after the scandal over screwing Bernie, appointing people to positions as a reward for donations and straight up getting caught lying over the emails. Are you crazy? She knew it was against the rules to have that server at her house with the type of information she was dealing with

You thought it was a great convention because you ignored all the embarrassing scandal. Of course the DNC wasn't worried because they stated accurately that Hillary supporters are ignorant. Another shoe will drop on her and I will be here to laugh at her supporters once more.

 

Both parties are facing existential crises.

The Democrats ground game in the states are just not as good as the Republicans. They will always be threatened with losing control of both houses in Congress and the crucial state houses and governorships when redistricting triggers every decade.

Without Trump, it would have been more terrifying possibility for the Democrats to be swept from all three branches of government.

And...they still can.

As Republicans rally their base of bigots, sociopaths, morons, lunatics, the religious right, and corporate tax dodgers, one striking class to notice are the dispossessed middle class.

One day the lines dividing the Occupyers and the Tea Baggers, presumably drawn through culture wars, will dissolve as paper poor becomes universally poor and less differentiating. By then, they'll have less disposable free time on their hands to think of something other than food, health, and housing. They'll be more irritable of gas or food bubbles supposedly linked through slick and streamlined inventory efficiencies that just didn't work as expected...while they or speculators pocket the difference.

Biden mentioned that the Dems haven't really spoken up for the white middle class. Gone are the days of being pro-labor, pro-growth through Keynesian policies and pro-community services and outreach. Replaced are pro-neoclassical policies of privatization and deregulation of the commons and a heavy reliance of offshore capital and imports. For the former, Democrats have openly embraced "moving to the middle" by conceding those time honored responsibilities to the states when states typically live "paycheck to paycheck" and raid those entitlement plans whenever they can, regardless of booms or busts. For the latter, these trade deals strengthen American multinationals but their majority shareholders aren't the American public that politicians are intended to serve and enrich.

The collapse of any intellectual semblance of the Conservative political party only serves notice that the capture of the Democrat party by the wealthy is complete. This will rear its ugly head presumably to be more moderating to those battleground states Republicans have tight control over.

Populist movements will be here to last.

I would've imagined frequent riots to happen earlier after 08, but demographics and steady leadership stemmed that tide. What wasn't corrected were the root causes to the problem...an increasingly skewed and corrupt financial system that bets their farm and our farm on moral hazard, an education system mired in gridlock and obsolescence that's totally unprepared to educate more than 40% of their class to future career demands, and real estate and commodities deeply inflated through massive speculation and interference from sovereign funds.

There's not a lot of sense in the phrase "Make America Great Again", but what makes America Great is the ability for anyone to achieve the American dream. It's just that many people are too proud to ask for help to a government they've learned to distrust and dismiss when things start to matter.

Before the schadenfreude drips from uncorked champagne bottles, everyone should recognize how deeply we're still under and how universal that threat poses to every American.

 

Gee, if the biggest issue you have with Clinton is Hillary giving Wasserman a largely figurehead role in her campaign likely as a result of loyalty to a friend and colleague who accepted responsibility for mistakes made by the DNC...

... and simply comparing the two conventions, based on the quality of speeches, quality of speakers, and most important, the "bounces" the two candidates received from their conventions, its easy to conclude which was a better convention. But hey, keep the partisan blinders on...

 

The uneducated white working class is feeling squeezed, but do they even know what is good for them and what is bad for them? I have a feeling many of them have no idea.

 

The only thing the GOP is losing is the Executive so far. I've said over the years that not having the Executive allows the GOP to campaign as outsiders when they are really the power brokers of legislation, or lack thereof. Real republicans would trade the Presidency for control of tax laws, corporate regulations, and military appropriations.

The GOP is in control of The Senate , the House, most governorships, most State Houses and dog catchers. When that flips then start talking about the end of the GOP.

 

Both parties have issues. Republicans consist of older white people who are dying off. Democrats consists of young minorities and women that don't bother to vote other than in presidential elections. Democrats may be able to figure out how to get people to the ballot box, but Republicans won't be able to figure out how to get old white people to live longer especially with their stances on healthcare and nutrition.

 

The huge embarrassment national convention that had dozens of paid Republicans bloviators crying on social media wishing it was their convention? Or the one that featured Scott Baio?

And of course, your chosen candidate.

Trump.

 

Bullsh!t of the highest order, Democrats are just as pro-America as Republicans, they just have different ideas about what is best for America.

First, illegal immigrants can't vote, whether or not there is "amnesty."

Second, no "amnesty" has been given, since such a grant would have to come from Congress, which has refused to consider immigration reform beyond a wall.

 

I think Republicans first act will be to begin investigations in Clinton and then impeachment hearings as soon as possible. Because impeaching a clinton is more important than governing.

This actually shows your ignorance, not others. Every presidential candidate in pretty much U.S. history has hired people who gave them donations. That includes Bush, Bush, and Reagan - why didn't you complain then???

Hypocrite. If you think Republicans are above anything Clinton has done, you are totally living in a deluded world. She's a politician just like every other politician. The only thing that will make her a terrible president is because you don't like her.

 

What policies do you believe will prevent the "uneducated" of any race from slipping further behind? Are there any?

The GOP will adapt. After 2008, I thought they would have by now. But eventually survival mode has to kick in and they will change with the voting public.

 

The two parties have changed quite a bit in the last 30 years.

The Democrats have learned from their failures in the 1980's and have become more receptive to particular business industries and have moved on beyond poor whites and farmers.

The Republicans have filled the vacuum by appealing to poor whites and fringe Christian communities. As a result the Republicans have done well in local elections but not well in national level elections.

The Republican party, at the national level is at a point where they are the most embarrassing and incompetent party in modern US history.

The Democrats have the most powerful and influential leaders at the top, with people like Bill & Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, Elizabeth Warren and Michael Bloomberg.... that doesn't even include the amount of powerful supporters they have at the top of the financial sector and technology based industries.

 

And the start of A new Republican party. Well, you would hope there is a new one that come back to real conservative values.

 

one of the problems with the GOP is the conflict between platform planks.

Small government does not interfere with people's personal choices
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Christian principles are about control of the self and acceptance of others not imposing religion doctrine
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Fiscal conservatives should oppose massive military spending and the lobbying that that secures it.

Regulatory obstructionist are not populist, regulations protect people.

Union busting decreases good paying jobs for workers.

 

It's too painful for Trump to do so. Trump can not get rid of someone that idolize him.

 

Another take on the GOP & Trump
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No, Trump and his hateful minions did not suddenly descend from outer space to invade America in 2015. Rather, they have been purposely and assiduously cultivated by conservative elites since the 1950s


In other words, what we are seeing in the Republican party today is not truly a war of two opposing factions but the spectacle of the faction that has long been used by the other finally claiming the driver’s seat. Election after election, Republicans have stirred up their masses with all kinds of absurd propaganda in order to get them to vote for policies that overwhelmingly favor corporations and the wealthy. This time, the nativists want to put their man in the White House to make sure they don’t get fooled again.

That said, it’s important to realize that their actual agenda is only marginally different from the corporatists, as the conservative noise machine has done such a fantastic job getting poorer whites to accept and internalize the agenda of the 1%. The nativists still dutifully believe that climate change is a hoax, just as Exxon-Mobil and the Koch Brothers taught them; they still support tax cuts tilted to the super-rich and deregulation to let corporations continue to rip them off and poison their air and water

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/15/1560134/-How-the-GOP-s-Double-Life-Blew-Up-in-Its-Face

 

She can make these seriously dark, angry, mean faces when she is trying to be serious.

 

Getting back to the original topic -- the demise of the GOP, let's say that prediction comes true.

Soon after that happens the Democratic Party will split into two wings. Years ago, before most of the posters here were even born, in Texas there was only one party, the Democratic Party. However, Democrats back then were either Yellow Dog Democrats led by Ralph Yarborough, or Blue Dog Democrats, led by John Connally. LBJ played both sides against the middle.

Two parties always emerge in these United States. That's been our nature for more than 200 years. If the Democrats don't split, the Republican Party, like the Whigs of the early 1800s, will transform into something else.

Fear not. Posters in the D&D will always be at the throats of some evil other party.