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The Economy Sucks

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jonjon, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. jonjon

    jonjon Contributing Member

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    A lot of good, talented, and tenured people are getting laid off at my "government funded" job today.

    I was fortunate to keep my job, and I'm thankful, but some of my co-workers and close acquaintances aren't.

    Sad day. A lot of good people and quality workers added to the pool of the unemployed.

    Get it together elected officials, because if this is their idea of fixing the economy... Then I'd rather them leave it broken.

    /rant
     
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  2. Ubiquitin

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    I am sorry that you witnessed your coworkers being laid off, but I am curious to learn more about your industry.
     
  3. jonjon

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    Ironically... Workforce Development
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    So you... work for a hiring agency? I've never heard of workforce development.
     
  5. Johndoe804

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    The way I see it, if they fired the lot of you and gave me a refund on my taxes, I wouldn't be broke and perhaps somebody else would have a job providing a service I actually demand.
     
  6. AbbasNasib

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    Because taxes are why you're broke?

    OP, I'm sorry to hear that. I wish the best to them on their journeys.
     
  7. Johndoe804

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    Whether or not I'm broke is irrelevant. The point still stands. If I wasn't taxed to support this service, somebody else might have a job doing something I demand, and both of us would be better off.
     
  8. AbbasNasib

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    While those working in the job that was lost and those that needed the service that they offered are left in the cold.

    Sound logic.
     
  9. thadeus

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    You are wrong.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    There's no link to there being a service that you don't demand (today....) - and that capital being redeployed to something you would demand. It's basically pure chance, no different than you playing scratch-off lotto tickets -sure, if you bought some, you might win, and be better off. Who cares?

    It's not, of course, that your one-man demands are even relevant to the disucssion at all. Obviously if you want to live in a stateless place where you don't have to sacrifice for the greater good, dont' have to buy insurnance, etc there are options out there for you.
     
  11. Johndoe804

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    Obviously! :rollseyes:
     
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  13. greenhippos

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but WD is a place where people who can't get a job on their own go and have someone do it for them?
     
  14. okierock

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    Here is the problem I have with this line of thinking.

    First I am of the opinion that our government is corrupt and exceedingly inefficient. You may or may not agree. Either way I don't like the idea of giving more money to any entity that has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be wasteful and ineffective.

    So we have two sides of an argument.

    Tax more people for more money to support proven waste and corruption and eventually fail.
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    Maintain or decrease the current taxation and force the corrupt entity to change it's behavior or eventually fail.

    Change or fail, we can't go on arguing about right/left, conservative/liberal, it's broken and our children are going to pay the price for our shortsightedness and petty differences.
     
  15. Ubiquitin

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    False dichotomy.
     
  16. AbbasNasib

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    In it's most textbook and simplest form.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    Actually we don't even have an argument, we have a thoroughly unsupported blanket bit of conjecture on your part, with no attempt made to test its relevance or even translate it to the matter at hand, hence providing another "side" of an argument. My suspicion is that this bit of conjecture is thus designed to support a prepackaged conclusion on your part, lending me to believe that, in fact, further discussion of this point would be "proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to be wasteful and ineffective"

    Nonetheless, let's soldier on to paragraph dois, homen.


    And my suspicions are confirmed. I have no idea what this hypothetical corrupt entity is - but I do know that there are many ways (in fact the primary way) to rid it of corruption, which generally entails law & regulation of some sort. Tax revenue is not relevant to this discussion.
     
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  18. AbbasNasib

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    Hate to say it, but...

    Str8 Up.
     
  19. pippendagimp

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    this only the beginning....state n local govt's haven't even started defaulting yet
     
  20. okierock

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    Ah, so money is not the root of all evil.

    Since typing flowery condescending posts fluffs up your skirt and makes you feel intelligent, I doubt you will like the idea of an actual answer to a question. I'm going to ask anyway, would you mind answering the following questions yes or no?

    Do you think that our government is corrupt?

    Do you think that our government is efficient?

    I ask because our government has been writing laws and regulating itself for 200+ years now and your answer to the above two questions might shed some light on how you feel they are getting along.

    My answer to both questions is yes.
     

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