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'The Dirty Game' - SI investigation of Oklahoma State

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Sep 9, 2013.

  1. J.R.

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    [rquoter]“The Dirty Game,” a SPORTS ILLUSTRATED special investigative report that looks into the transformation of a struggling college football program into a national powerhouse, is set to launch tomorrow morning on SI.com. The series is the result of a comprehensive 10-month investigation into the Oklahoma State University football program. It includes independent and on-the-record interviews with more than 60 former OSU football players who played from 2001 to ’10, as well as current and former OSU football staffers.

    The findings will be presented in a five-part series across SI’s family of platforms, beginning with Part 1 (money), which launches on SI.com tomorrow at 9 a.m. ET and is this week’s magazine cover story, on newsstands and tablets Wednesday. Additional live coverage can be found on SI Now, SI.com’s live daily talk show (weekdays at 1 p.m. ET) and across SI’s social media outlets.

    After 11 losing seasons in 12 years, OSU turned itself into one of the top programs in the nation. Since 2002, OSU has had 10 winnings seasons, earned its first Big 12 title and went to its first BCS Bowl. The report reveals that OSU went to extreme measures to build a winning program, with an increased willingness to cut corners and bend rules. The transgressions began under former coach Les Miles, who was the head coach in Stillwater from 2001 to ’04 and is now the head coach at LSU, and continued under current head coach Mike Gundy, who was promoted from offensive coordinator in 2005.

    SI executive editor Jon Wertheim, SI assistant managing editor Hank Hersch and SI.com executive editor B.J. Schecter oversaw the investigative report, which was written and reported by senior writers George Dohrmann and Thayer Evans.

    “We wanted to take a comprehensive look at a big-time program, particularly one that made a rapid ascent,” says Wertheim. “There’s obviously a steady drumbeat of scandal in college sports – improper benefits here; a recruiting violation there – and plenty of rumor and hearsay about the unseemly underbelly. For this piece, we were more about venturing inside the factory and seeing how the sausage is made.”

    Parts 2 — 4 of the report continue on SI.com this week and the series culminates in next week’s SI issue and on SI.com. In addition, SI.com will feature videos of former Cowboys talking about their experiences in Stillwater. SI Now will have live coverage and reaction throughout the week. The series will run as follows:

    • Part 1: Money (On SI.com Tuesday, 9/10 and in the 9/16/13 SI issue): SI finds that OSU used a bonus system orchestrated by an assistant coach whereby players were paid for their performance on the field, with some stars collecting $500 or more per game. In addition, the report finds that OSU boosters and at least two assistant coaches funneled money to players via direct payments and a system of no-show and sham jobs. Some players say they collected more than $10,000 annually in under-the-table payouts.

    • Part 2: Academics (On SI.com Wednesday, 9/11): Widespread academic misconduct, which included tutors and other OSU personnel completing coursework for players, and professors giving passing grades for little or no work, all in the interest of keeping top players eligible.

    • Part 3: Drugs (On SI.com Thursday, 9/12): OSU tolerated and at times enabled recreational drug use, primarily through a specious counseling program that allowed some players to continue to use drugs while avoiding penalties. The school’s drug policy was selectively enforced, with some stars going unpunished despite repeated positive tests.

    • Part 4: Sex (On SI.com Friday, 9/13): OSU’s hostess program, Orange Pride, figured so prominently in the recruitment of prospects that the group more than tripled in size under Miles. Both Miles and Gundy took the unusual step of personally interviewing candidates. Multiple former players and Orange Pride members say that a small subset of the group had sex with recruits, a violation of NCAA rules.

    • Part 5: The Fallout (On SI.com Tuesday, 9/17, and in the 9/23/13 SI issue): SI finds that many players who were no longer useful to the football program were cast aside, returning to worlds they had hoped to escape. Some have been incarcerated, others live on the streets, many have battled drug abuse and a few have attempted suicide.[/rquoter]
     
  2. BigBenito

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    I hope there are some direct quotes! Sounds juicy.
     
  3. Brandyon

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    Performance bonuses, academic misconduct, drugs, and sex...

    So, par for the course that is college football. There must be too much parody in the Big 12 now.
     
  4. BigBenito

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    Speaking of parody - the last quote has to be a joke of some sort, "SI finds that many players who were no longer useful to the football program were cast aside, returning to worlds they had hoped to escape. Some have been incarcerated, others live on the streets, many have battled drug abuse and a few have attempted suicide."
     
  5. Ziggy

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    Give the Big 12 the death penalty, please. Just kidding, don't yell at me.
     
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    any images of these talented 'hostesses' ?
     
  7. J.R.

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    So, quotes mostly from players that I don't even remember or were only on the team for a year. :( Disappointing. I remember Shaw ... I think.

    The Money
     
  9. BigBenito

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    Didn't realize the guy (Thayer Evans) had been going after OK State for years.
     
  10. J.R.

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    Video: Former players discuss payments

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    ad hominem attacks from me galore, i realize. but how many of these players were kicked off the team?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2136436
     
  12. LonghornFan

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    Just posted in the comments section-

     
  13. LonghornFan

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    Great OSU athlete education there.

    ARTICLE.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Boone Pickens past quote: &quot;'I’ve given the school a lot of money, but if there is any cheating, I’m through.” <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OKState&amp;src=hash">#OKState</a></p>&mdash; MikeSherman (@MikeSherman) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSherman/statuses/377453040225501184">September 10, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  15. Joe Joe

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    SI sent reporters to do stories on SEC teams. They kept getting "lost" and have not been seen again.
     
  16. shastarocket

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    Official response by Pickens:

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/65...d-statement-sept-10-2013-pdf-324k?da=y&dnad=y

    Response by former player Andre Sexton:
    http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/andre-sexton-wrote-a-pretty-great-response-to-the-si-article

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  17. Dairy Ashford

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    This reminds me of those damning, in-depth exposes on Miami, Oklahoma and FSU that they did during the '80s.
     
  18. percicles

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    Thayer Evans is a hack who has no credibility.
     
  19. astros99

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    While I'm sure some of the allegations is true, seems like he just got most of the players who are disgruntled with the team. However, I give props to OK state for not coming out n flatly denying it. They seem to take the approach that "most of the stuff happened along time ago." Any comment from Les Miles?
     
  20. The Stig

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    Death Penalty! Can we not be the only school with it please?

    Bring SMU back to the BIGXII! *I wish....
     

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