I feel ya. I lived in Third Ward for 12 years and left to put my kids in a better school. We do unfortunately have systemic problems perpetuated by official organs of the state that contribute to this community fragmentation. I wasn't saying it's not rational to move. Just lamenting the reality of it.
Segregation also forced black doctors to live in neighborhoods like fifth ward. A neighborhood like fifth ward was descent for a black doctor in the thirties. Fifth Ward has always been black since it was started in the early 1900s. It wasn't always ghetto Whites have lost manufacturing areas also. That's an American issue. I'm not saying you're totally wrong but you're ignoring the reality of the black middle class having to live with the poor
Ok, dude, you go ahead and ignore the countless history and sociology publications that have basically created a consensus that is the basis of my very watered down summary. Pre-integration romanticism has been heavily debunked. If you don’t want to read and/or learn that is good to know. Sorry for engaging.
WTF is your problem Louis Henry Gatess and his guests said this. God damn you want me to read it today? You don't think that middle class leaving black neighborhoods hurt those areas Without all the sociology that's pure money leaving for starters Sorry I didn't read those countless books in the last three hours Good Lord My momma was born in fifth ward in 39. That's my first reference. Her family moved there in 29 Pretty darn good reference
My momma had a good childhood in i5th ward. She loves talking about it Her father worked at a refinery. Sinclair Oil
Yes clearly I wasnted you to read the entirety of scholarship on the subject today. I don’t know if this is sincere willful ignorance or playing a role. My response was more to that attitude regardless since your response was dismissive and restating your one point you have repeated many times. Because of our mamma. Ok. I could write more about your fallacies regarding the black middle class before and after integration (based on compiled data and statistics) but it would be pointless.
So why did these middle class blacks leave amazing communities? Also, can we get some specific years here instead of just saying "before integration?" I want to know what years precisely represent the utopia of thriving black neighborhoods so I can do some research.
Good Lord man. I am actually interested in watching a show you referenced and that's how you respond?
@pgabriel why bother posting if you don't want discussion and folks taking an interest? I have been nothing but respectful and curious in this thread.
You can't find yesterday's PBS programming on your own. I don't time for your incessant fact checking of me. Told you when what station and whose show
From the time these neighborhoods started till integration Each neighborhood is specific to it's city as far as when it started but a great area to research on this subject is Baltimore and the area around Dunbar high.school. it's considered the first black middle class All the flight status in the late sixties, you know when integration began. It's considered the first black middle class area.
