Texas once again gives the middle finger to the Constitution

Just going to pass this on to my contacts at Jade Helm.

 

They should change the law to require one parent to be an American citizen. This flooding the border with pregnant women and pregnancy tourism is absurd.

 

This is a thorny problem.

U.S. law does extend citizenship to those born in the United States. However, I don't think the founding fathers anticipated people subverting the law in such a way that literally allows three of more people to gain de facto citizenship by illegally entering the country to birth a child.

Abbot may be trying to force Congress to change the law by creating an enormous legal tangle which could put up a roadblock to this exploitation of our laws. I don't know the governor's reasoning, but that is my guess.

We could abort every child that doesn't have a U.S. parent. Since the parents are not citizens, they would have no rights in the decision.

 

Abortion for every non-American? Do you just live in crazy town now?

 

The Founding Fathers didn't pass the 14th Amendment. It was a Reconstruction amendment.

Southerners hated it. Republicans still hate it.

 

That's a very good suggestion it should be passed on to Congress maybe they can stop fighting long enough to get that done.

 

Maybe he meant Re-Founding Fathers?

 

They also would've pooped themselves if they'd seen a telephone. But, hey, Originalism.

 

I'm guessing it would put a dramatic dent in illegal immigration.

 

I don't think there was such an issue of immigration back then if you're going to the founding fathers argument. I don't even think the idea of illegal immigration existed.

 

Good luck changing the constitution.

It doesn't really impact their citizenship in a Platonic sense. But, making it impossible for a person to prove that he was born anywhere at all will create a bureaucratic nightmare for them to try to do anything. Whether you can confirm the identity of the parent or not, you still have to issue something to record the fact the the child was born in the particular place on the particular day. If they have to just mark the mother as unknown or unverified, that's still better than not issuing anything. That's a US citizen they're denying service to.

 

No it didn't. Everyone was welcome. In a way, everyone was illegal. I think that lasted well into the 18xx if not into the early 19xx.

 

So, from what I gather, this has affected a whopping two Texas counties.

Must be part of the post-invasion Jade Helm plot.

 

In the 1850's California was passing laws limiting Chinese immigration and the Federal Chinese Exclusion Act was passed in 1882.

 

The Constitution still applies at the county level.

 

Even one hospital in one city flatly denying people proof of birth is too ****ed up to dismiss. This is poll taxes, literacy tests, white primaries and jury exclusion all rolled into one. White, populist conservative Southerners just keep self-demeaning by subverting and abusing laws for the meanest possible reasons.

 

On a not unrelated note there was little to no non-white immigration. Legally naturalized minority citizens sense the same social stigma as illegal immigrants and can probably never comfortably take the conservative stance on this issue.

 

So this started on Perry's watch?

Rocket River

 

There is nothing to debate here. The people refusing to grant birth certificates to the parents of kids born in the US are simply breaking the law.

No matter what you might think the founding fathers (who had nothing to do with the 14th Amendment) wanted or what your opinion on the matter is, the law as currently written in the Constitution says that these kids are citizens, period.