Texas Couple Arrested for Wearing Anti-Bush Shirts at July 4 Campaign Stop

I bet there is more to the story. I'm waiting to hear all of it first. Please keep me informed.

 

I think Traitor w**** Hey, Faos,Bama Slammer and the like should be sent to a protest zone,say on the Laker Forum.
Shrub is just showing What a big f***ing P***Y he is.
I think people should let him know how they feel by throwing him out on his ass in November.
You idiots that are glad that Shrub is using the constitution to wipe his ass with are showing how two faced you are when it comes to good old fashion american values.


there does that make it better!

 

It is the secret services' job to protect the President, no matter who it is.

Did you know that people were arrested during President Clinton's presidency for just saying the word "assassination" or "bomb" during conversations about him?

That has always been the standard.


"Love America, Hate (insert any President's name here)" is threatening speech toward a President.... during a WAR mind you.

Good for them. They "freely" used their speech. And they "freely" faced the consequences.

Ignorance is no excuse for the law. Never has been.

 

I can't believe there are still people who believe this is OK.

IROCit, how many of the people who accused President Clinton of murder were arrested?

BTW, IROCit, could you please cite the law that states that saying you hate someone is a jailable offense. Thanks in advance.

 

As the abuses pile up...it will make the administration look more and more absurd. It's only a matter of time...

 

This isn't just "someone" though. This is the President of the United States. He's kinda the leader of the free world.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/ref/blssprotect.htm

Secret Service Protection Law
The following section of the US Code tasks the US Secret Service with providing protective services to the President, Vice President, major candidates for those offices, and the families of those persons.

Title 18, Crimes and Criminal Procedures
Sec. 3056. Powers, authorities, and duties of United States Secret Service

* (a) Under the direction of the Secretary of the Treasury, the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect the following persons:
o (1) The President, the Vice President (or other officer next in
the order of succession to the Office of President), the
President-elect, and the Vice President-elect.
o (2) The immediate families of those individuals listed in
paragraph (1).
o (3) Former Presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes,
except that protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event
of remarriage unless the former President did not serve as
President prior to January 1, 1997, in which case, former
Presidents and their spouses for a period of not more than ten
years from the date a former President leaves office, except that
-
+ (A) protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of
remarriage or the divorce from, or death of a former President;
and
(B) should the death of a President occur while in office or
within one year after leaving office, the spouse shall receive
protection for one year from the time of such death:
Provided, That the Secretary of the Treasury shall have the
authority to direct the Secret Service to provide temporary
protection for any of these individuals at any time if the
Secretary of the Treasury or designee determines that information
or conditions warrant such protection.
o (4) Children of a former President who are under 16 years of
age for a period not to exceed ten years or upon the child
becoming 16 years of age, whichever comes first.
o (5) Visiting heads of foreign states or foreign governments.
o (6) Other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States
and official representatives of the United States performing
special missions abroad when the President directs that such
protection be provided.
o (7) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and,
within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses
of such candidates. As used in this paragraph, the term ''major
Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates'' means those
individuals identified as such by the Secretary of the Treasury
after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the
Speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of
the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders
of the Senate, and one additional member selected by the other
members of the committee. The protection authorized in paragraphs (2) through (7) may be declined.

* (b) Under the direction of the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secret Service is authorized to detect and arrest any person who violates -
o (1) section 508, 509, 510, 871, or 879 of this title or, with
respect to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Federal
land banks, and Federal land bank associations, section 213, 216,
[1] 433, 493, 657, 709, 1006, 1007, 1011, 1013, 1014,
1907, or 1909 of this title;
o (2) any of the laws of the United States relating to coins,
obligations, and securities of the United States and of foreign
governments; or
o (3) any of the laws of the United States relating to electronic
fund transfer frauds, credit and debit card frauds, and false
identification documents or devices; except that the authority
conferred by this paragraph shall be exercised subject to the
agreement of the Attorney General and the Secretary of the
Treasury and shall not affect the authority of any other Federal
law enforcement agency with respect to those laws.

* (c)
o (1) Under the direction of the Secretary of the Treasury, officers and agents of the Secret Service are authorized to -
+ (A) execute warrants issued under the laws of the United
States;
+ (B) carry firearms;
+ (C) make arrests without warrant for any offense against the
United States committed in their presence, or for any felony
cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have
reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has
committed or is committing such felony;
+ (D) offer and pay rewards for services and information leading
to the apprehension of persons involved in the violation or
potential violation of those provisions of law which the Secret
Service is authorized to enforce;
+ (E) pay expenses for unforeseen emergencies of a confidential
nature under the direction of the Secretary of the Treasury and
accounted for solely on the Secretary's certificate; and
(F) perform such other functions and duties as are authorized
by law.
o (2) Funds expended from appropriations available to the Secret Service for the purchase of counterfeits and subsequently recovered shall be reimbursed to the appropriations available to the Secret Service at the time of the reimbursement.

* (d) Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs, resists, or interferes with a Federal law enforcement agent engaged in the performance of the protective functions authorized by this section or by section 1752 of this title shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

It is at their discretion who they arrest. "Hate the President" is threatening language...
More here....
http://www.secretservice.gov/faq.shtml

 

"...make arrests without warrant for any offense against the
United States committed in their presence"

Against the "United States?" T-shirts? Wow!

 

You've told us nothing.

Where's the law prohibiting what they did. Thanks in advance.

 

What legal authority and powers do Secret Service agents have?

Under Title 18, Section 3056, United States Code, agents and officers of the Secret Service can carry firearms; execute warrants issued under the laws of the United States; make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony recognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed such felony; offer and pay rewards for services and information leading to the apprehension of persons involved in the violation of the law that the Secret Service is authorized to enforce; investigate fraud in connection with identification documents, fraudulent commerce, fictitious instruments and foreign securities; perform other functions and duties authorized by law. The Secret Service works closely with the United States Attorney's Office in both protective and investigative matters.

Again, they choose what is deemed as a "threat." If they felt this was a threat... which they must have being that this couple were the only "anti-Bush" persons in attendance wearing these t-shirts... well, then they have the power to act as they see fit.

This is however not Bush's fault. It has been our system for years...

People were arrested in the '60's at protests for anti-Nixon propaganda as well.

 

So, wearing a t-shirt is an offense against America?

We're p*****s, then.

 

Okay, put it this way. Just as the Pope is the embodiment of the Catholic church... so the President of the U.S. is the embodiment of the United States.

He "is" the United States personafied.

Threaten him in public within earshot, or line of sight, of his official protection... and they have the right to act.

That's the law that makes it against the law. If the secret service feels the threat, they can and will, and do, act.

It's that simple.

You want it to change? Start some secret service reform party?

Ignorance is no excuse for the law. Still.

Haven't you heard the song by Ice-T? "Freedom of Speech... Just Watch What You Say."

 

IROC It:

Have you heard that song??? I deeply hope you're being ironic like Ice-T and that you don't actually regard a t-shirt as a threat against the president (and by extension the country - LOL). You're not talking about America are you?

 

Of course I'm being ironic... IRONIC it...

Seriously, it is sad that they percieved that as a threat against America.

I don't feel that it was or is. I'm just stating the facts that... they have the legal right to do this.


And that this is a WAY, way, way, way pre-Bush the 1st or 2nd issue.

This has happened as a result of years of tradition, not a partisan stand. This transcends any party line.

Don't be fooled into the whole "conspiracy theory" going around that Bush is trying to silence his doubters.

He swore to defend the constitution, and I believe him. He knows that people are against him. He knows that's their right. He wouldn't be that stupid as to hand pick folks to be arrested.

Don't like him? Vote against him. Fine.


But the secret service will defend John Kerry the same way.

 

I can't believe I'm reading this stuff, IROC. Faos was kidding... not in a way I care a lot for, given what happened, but I respect the fact that he was kidding. We do a lot of that around here, no question about it. But what you're posting makes absolutely no sense. No sense whatsoever. I would think that you posting the law pertaining to the Secret Service and it's duties to protect the President was hilarious, given that it didn't pertain to this incident at all, and only proved, again, how wrong you are, but I can't laugh. I find this sort of thing offensive to me, as an American. So I can't laugh. Really, I feel sorry for you. Because what I see as our country, and it's freedoms,and what it stands for are clearly not what you see.

But I guess we both like the Rockets.

 

The real task is agreeing on a PG.

 

Wrong forum!

 

Lets be honest here....

The administration and campaign reps made it clear to the SS that there will be no "Anti-Bush" anything in the background. They want only "happy-happy pro-Bushies" in the crowd. It's a PR thing (they hope).

So, sure, they can spin the law and point to "threats agaisnt the United States of America! ( )." But lets be real here. We're not talking about a couple of AQ terrorist with two AK-47's. Or a crazy man swinging a Ninja sword!

They were wearing T-Shirts! Geeesh!

 

See this kind of stuff leads to know where. The same argument can be made for the Chinese government at the tianenmen square incident, they could've arrested all the students on the fact that they were "deemed as threats" to the government, prime minister, whatever (I'm pretty sure a similar stature is probably some where in the Chinese laws).

 

Those jerkoffs shouldn't have been arrested, fired, forced to leave, or anything else. Seperate from that, I really dislike the ACLU. What we need is a similar organization that has an ounce of common sense.

 

Half of you critics would have gone beserk if someone had show up at the McGrady press conference with a "Love Steve/Hate Tracy" T-shirt on...

Did Bush really slap the handcuffs on this couple himself?!!!

Bring 'em on!