Any stop-gap is "indefinite", perhaps you don't know the difference between "indefinite" and "permanent". "Indefinite" can end at any point.
This is the cliche, but surprisingly not that true these days. If you don't show flashes of brilliance from your rookie season, probably going to become Ryan Fitzpatrick.
What type of stats does teddy have to put up for you to give him credit? 600 yds 6 tds? Was Clowney on the field today? Or did he get hurt jogging in pre game warm ups?
He gets credit for the games he plays no matter how well he does or doesn't do. He played today against the worst pass defense and the worst overall defense in the NFL today and had a decent showing, similar to Fitz playing against the Titans. How much "credit" does that earn in your eyes? Should we be jumping for joy because he didn't throw any picks this game? How low do we set the bar? Does he actually have to do well to deserve praise in your opinion, or just not completely suck? For me, he gets credit for looking not completely terrible (81.5 QB rating) while playing dink and dunk captain checkdown style football (5.7 yards per attempt) against the worst defense in the league (32nd most passing yards per game given up and 32nd most points per game given up). Before today, I wasn't completely sold that he could do that.
Young QBs are going to make mistakes my friend. But with the experience of seeing different defenses,adjusting to the speed of pro players, and making the lifestyle adjustment from college to pro, they should improve. Fitzpatrick is 10 years in & despite winning less than 40% of his games as a starter, he keeps landing starting jobs.
Fitzpatrick keeps getting starting jobs because young QBs keep flaming out of the league. You keep saying young QBs need experience, how much experience did Jake Locker need? Or Christian Ponder? Or David Carr? Or EJ Manuel? Can young QBs improve with experience? Of course. But all the top QBs showed flashes of brilliance from early on. So far Bridgewater has shown he can be a dink and dunk QB. Which is fine for someone with 4 starts. But if he ends the season where 42 passes for 242 yards is norm, he's likely not going to be more than a mediocrity.
We all can name guys who flamed out. But it's the truth guys need time to polish their games. You have to play against NFL schemes at NFL speed. For the record these guys have had moments but the question is who's going to work to get better. What kind of talent is playing with him and who's coaching/tutoring these QBs. Fitzpatrick getting jobs shows he's well liked, professional & that your organization is not serious about winning big anytime soon. His record speaks for itself.
Just curious, were you a Vince Young or Tim Tebow fan? I find it funny that people still toss out QB win-loss record as if it's supposed to mean something.
Actually, the list of flameouts goes way further than that. It is much longer than any successful QB draft picks. If Vegas has odds on whether Bridgewater would be an average QB in his career, it would be heavily favored on the answer NO. His record is that he's been better than most QBs taken outside the top-5 of an NFL draft.
Not a VY or Tebow guy. But if a guy has been playing for 10 years and has been mediocre at best, why would it be plausible to expect anything different here? Oh & BTW, really good quarterbacks tend to win in today's NFL.
The bolded part is a legitimate argument, but when you try and back that up with W-L record you kill it. W-L record only tells you the quality of the team a QB plays on and nothing about how they play as a QB.
Sooo, you should stop drafting QBs until you find a "sure thing"? If you let Vegas odds decide careers, there would be no Tony Romos, Brett Favres, Drew Brees, Kurt Warners, Warren Moons, etc... There are guys out there who beat the odds. Scouting & Coaching has to reduce those odds & find the diamond in the rough. You can't stop trying & settle for a journeyman quarterback because of "Vegas" Bridgewater is just getting started & will have growing pains. Same with some of the other young guys. (Carr, Bortles, etc..) His record stinks & his play is mediocre at best. Seems like a classy guy & is obviously smart but he's a backup QB.
No. You should draft the QB you believe to have the best chance to become the next Drew Brees. Which is based upon scouting and analysis by the staff before the draft. This is a judgement call. If we go by your logic, Bridgewater would be the #1 pick in the draft, because let's face it, if he's Brett Favre or Drew Brees, he should be number 1. By the same notion, Manuel and Smith should've gone at the top of the draft last year too. Because hey, they could've been franchise QBs too! Yet all these teams passed on them. Are they all idiots? Mediocre play is better than most QBs coming out of the draft. Fitzpatrick is somewhere between 20th-50th best QB in the entire world.
