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Team's Best Player Without Being 1st or 2nd Option

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by celebrevida, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. celebrevida

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    Is there an example of a player who was universally regarded as the team's best player or most important player while not being the 1st or 2nd option on offense?
     
    #1 celebrevida, Nov 22, 2017
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    draymond
     
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    Jason Kidd
     
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    Bill Russell
    Wes Unseld
    Magic several years
    Jeremy Lin

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    Garnett when the Celtics won.
     
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  6. celebrevida

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    Draymond is an important player for the Warriors but no way is he considered better than Curry or Durant.
     
    #6 celebrevida, Nov 23, 2017
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    In his prime with the Nets, Kidd was definitely 1st or 2nd scoring option. The stats bear this out.
     
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    Bill Murray

    (OP doesn't specify NBA "players")
     
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    Ben Wallace was Detroit's franchise player for awhile.
     
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    Magic was the third leading scorer on a couple of Lakers' championship teams. His rookie year he was behind KAJ and Silk, later he was behind Worthy and Scott.
     
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    Steve Nash 2004-05 was the team's fourth leading scorer, numbers were very close to the 5th option Quentin.
     
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    Lol he was no option on that Space Jam but indeed a major figure.
     
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    Most times when it happens it's either a defensive specialist or a young player who still hasn't established himself and is surrounded by me first selfish scrubs.
    For example Gobert , or Jokic and Porzingis last year.
     
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    No, I meant the SNL Comedy players. Akroyd and Belushi were 1 and 2 options when Murray arrived
     
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    Or a really good point guard who does not need to score, however knows how to shoot and elevates the game of his teammates.
     
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    Nope
     
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    Wes Unseld won the MVP averaging 13.8 PPG.

    Bill Russell was clearly a secondary scoring option later in his career, yet was still clearly the anchor.

    Spectacular defensive bigs have been historically extremely well respected.
     
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    Cornbread Maxwell
     
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    Robert Big Shot Horry! That man was a scrub until it really mattered! He was a different animal come playoffs...
     
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