The Aggies can win at least four games per year (watered down non-conference schedule). The Aggies aren't a tier one SEC program (Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Florida). At best they're tier two with Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas, and South Carolina. IMO tier three is Ole Miss, Miss State, Kentucky, and Vandy. They should be able to win 6 games.
This is probably true. Sherman could be chased out of town if it gets that bad. Part of is sad about the lack of priorities, but part of me supports holding that overpaid POS coaching staff accountable.
I think everyone is missing an important part of the puzzle. If UT dominates Houston with fans (alumi), then UH must really dominate! UH has over 4 TIMES as many alumni in Houston than UT does. And the Big 12 is missing out on a lot of fans just so UT can continue to think it "owns" Houston. Noone owns Houston as it is too big, but if you want a bigger piece of it, you grab more, not think you have enough imo. And here are the links if you doubt it.... http://www.uh.edu/alumni/ As a graduate of the University of Houston, you're an integral part of a vibrant international network that encompasses nearly 200,000 UH alumni http://texasexes.com/?page_id=388 There are over 50,000 Texas Exes in the Houston area But of course, UT fans will think they dominate everything, even if it isn't true. If UT wants to not have an extra 200,000+ alums from UH watching a UH-UT game (of course that isn't including family, friends of those alums and just Houstonians who are Houston fans rather than Austin fans), fine, that is their choice. But in the end, UT is just screwing the students athletes of this state by not giving them the best opportunities by not including UH for it's own selfish gain. And also screwing the tax payers. If UT wants BYU in the conference and let BYU have that nice TV deal, guess who is going to be paying the tax bill if UH is running a deficit on it's athletics (which it currently does). It won't be people in Utah. And adding a private school is always great for the tax payers. I am sure they will love having to pay more so the that the rich kids at TCU can enjoy football.
Not that I'm arguing with you that UH wouldn't bring slightly more TV's to the big 12, but your numbers do not support your point. Read your bolded parts again. Notice the word international. That is the size of the total UH network. Where as the 50K number for Texas Exes is Texas Alums paying to get a news letter and access to getting football tickets just in Houston. The cost to be a Texas Ex is 50 dollars a year or 750 dollars for a lifetime.
Really? Damn, it costs more to register with the UH alumni association. 100 per year, or 1000 for a lifetime.
Having attended and graduated from both UT and UH, let me say that there's no comparison in the level of interest in the school's athletics among both students and alums. UH is a traditionally a commuter school with a pretty low "school spirit" level compared to A&M or UT. These things shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who's gone to either school. If UH controlled the Houston market, big-time conferences would be eager to add them. But there's a good deal of apathy, even among alums, for the sports programs. That's honestly part of being a school in an urban market with lots of other sports entertainment options around.
exactly. UH alums don't care about sports -- they're nothing like A&M/UT fans Donny's points are all moot based on this fact alone
Maybe that the reason you guys only have 18,000 thousand paying members worldwide while Texas Exes has 50K just in Houston.
sorry to crush your dreams brah, but it's the truth you don't have enough fans, despite the size of the alumni base
The attendance and TV numbers over the last few years say otherwise. Academics, facilities, football pedigree, I'll buy all that. Fan base vs. TCU? Not buying that.
Read your links. The UT link specifies alums that are in Houston. The UH page does not specify where those 200,000 alums are. If it said, "200,000 alums in Houston," your point would make sense. You're right. UT doesn't want UH in the big 12. Neither does anyone else. TCU isn't ideal but it brings the metroplex which has more people than houston and its surrounding areas and the DAL/FW TV market is better than the Hou market. Plus they have a 50K seat stadium while UH is in a 30K. Also, The conference almost collapsed. It needs to to what is best for it like any organization of any kind. Expanding the tv market is its concern. Not tax payers in 1 of the 5 states that their teams come from. If UH is draining the tax payers for money then they should balance their budget and not look for a bailout from conferences that don't want them.
i was discussing A&M helping SEC recruiting in TX with someone who isn't from tx. he's like if you guys think the sec needs a&m for recruiting you're crazy. and you know what, he's right. the conference that has produced four out of the last five national champs doesn't need a school in your state to pluck talent from your state.
Not a far fetched concept. OU needs the Big 12 to maintain their Texas recruiting (they've said so themselves), and they're the gold standard in terms of college football programs.
yeah, but ou is one state, and not a very populous one at that. the sec already has florida and lousinana. tx is gravy
also on ou and nebraska for that matter, back in the seventies and eighties, there was no big xii. remember? their pipeline was to california
Florida is really the only recruiting jewel in the SEC, at least when talking about compared to TX. The SEC does ok in TX, but they're about to start doing better.
Yeah, so how does that make the case for good programs not needing pipelines to other recruiting hotbeds? OU receives quite a bit of help recruiting TX from their association with the Big 12, I don't think anyone doubts that.
