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Syrian gas attack...again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Breaking news

    At least 60 dead, up to 11 children with the number expected to grow. Assad has gassed a rebel controlled section again.
     
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    Assad is a damn monster.
     
  3. R0ckets03

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    I will never understand how one human can justify doing this to a group of people...not matter what the cause.

    RIP the innocent dead.
     
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  4. dobro1229

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    Sickening.

    How the Right can continue to act as though Assad and Putin are who we need to back in the middle east is beyond me. Its no shock to me that Assad ramps up his effort to harm his own citizens days after Tillerson states that the US will essentially allow for Assad to stay in power don't really strike me as a coincidence. These are the same people who wanted Saddam out of Iraq at all costs.... even the costs of thousands of American lives.

    I understand that Assad getting overthrown could lead to a vacuum in Syria, but what is right is what is right. Also this type of thing is what leads people in the middle east & abroad to join groups like ISIS. They say that the US has abandoned us, Russia is supporting our tyrant leaders, and look at what our government is doing to us.

    And yes I blame Obama too for not doing enough knowing that this was happening. I understand its a no-win situation, but this is genocide and sick. Something more has to be done rather than just supporting the one gassing & bombing his own citizens.
     
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    So, did Obama succeed in the Middle East, or WHAT?
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    You did succeed in being a horrible ****in human being that likes to score political points off innocent people dying.
     
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  7. Nook

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    Assad isn't any worse than most of the leadership in that region.

    I don't like him and if there is a hell, he will be there.... but he is hardly unique in the Mid East.
     
  8. Nook

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    The biggest screw up in the Obama presidency.

    We have had terrible leadership, criminally bad for the last 16 years.
     
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  9. generalthade_03

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    King Barry Hussein is the ****ker who is responsible for this abomination. The ghost of these dead Syrian children will come back to haunt him and Michelle /Michael for an eternity.
     
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  10. justtxyank

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    I won't absolve Obama of any blame, but I'm amused by people who bash him for it but who reject taking the opposite approach.
     
  11. JuanValdez

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    1. I thought we struck an agreement with the Russians and Syrians to remove their chemical weapons. Did Assad hold some back, make more, or get it from someone else? Of everything in Obama's legacy, his redline and subsequent failure to back it up is probably the low point.

    2. Will Trump say a damn thing about this? Or will he quail in the face of foreign confrontation as he has done with Russia and China? He might not agree with the Obama-era strategy in Syria, but we'd struck a deal of sorts with Russia and Syria that chemical warfare was out. Assad just pissed on it and dared Trump to say something. He can go brazen and say those terrorists deserved it. He can demur and say he's working with Russia to make sure Assad abides the rules of war. He can denounce the atrocity and 'put Assad on notice' (lol). But it's punking out to say nothing.
     
  12. dandorotik

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    You see, you could have made a point we would agree with, that Obama is to blame for some of this. But then you bring Michelle Obama into this, and call her Michael, and this is the reason no one takes a jackass like you seriously.
     
  13. generalthade_03

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    That's the point homie....no one takes a lefty like you seriously.
    Russia Russia Rusia
     
  14. peleincubus

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    You seem like a well educated respectful person. Keep soldiering on.
     
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    It'll be interesting to see what Trump does about this. On one hand, he'll want to seem stronger than Obama when it comes to foreign policy (not difficult at all) so you'd expect a serious response to this, but on the other hand, Russia loves them some Assad and that's why Obama b****ed out when it came to the "red line".
     
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    He's like Texx without decorum, background knowledge and throughtful insights....no, really...seriously
     
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  17. JuanValdez

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    I don't think Obama was afraid of the Russian reaction to using force in Syria. He didn't mind getting on Russia's bad side when he supported Ukraine, or put economic sanctions on Russia. Obama was afraid of getting the US stuck in another unwinnable ground war in the Middle East.
     
  18. Cohete Rojo

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    Not getting involved in this war was the right thing to do.

    Giving the Syrian people hope (the red-line) was the wrong thing to do.
     
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    He did very little to truly support Ukraine.....as evidenced by the fact that Russia conquered most of it. In Syria, Obama said that there was a "red line" and then once it was crossed, Putin told him to go get his shine box and Obama walked away. I imagine Putin will do the same to Trump, we'll see if his response is the same, I honestly wouldn't want to bet one way or the other about it.

    As to an "unwinnable ground war", that's not the case, The Assad regime could be toppled in a matter of days assuming Russia didn't fully prop him up. The suggestion by Obama was that the US would step in and remove Assad if he used chemical weapons....he used chemical weapons and Obama b****ed out. There's not really another way of seeing it.
     
  20. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Syria thinks Donald is Putin's puppet so much they don't even respect him and gas their citizens again. America is no longer feared by the bad guys. Congrats.
     

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