Nobody who voted Joe voted on policy last night, if people voted solely on policy it would be Warren, 99-1. If Bernie cared about policy he would have stood down for the actual policy candidate. People voted on beating Trump and decided that was enough - read a single exit poll if you disagree.
The US is a Capitalistic Socialist society. Nobody wants pure Capitalism, nor due they want pure Socialism. Bernie labels himself as a socialist, that's his problem.
Oh, a few conservatives definitely want that. We're having a good push to privatize education (k-12), we already have for-profit prisons too. I think we are closer to pure capitalism than most other countries. The system you have described is Democratic Socialism, which Bernie says he is. It's just too bad the message didn't really get out there I guess and older people were too terrified to hear the word 'socialist' in that title.
Realistic? Like I dont know where people got this idea that Sanders will be this incompetent president. He may not get all those ideas through but sheesh, its a big step in the right direction. So the choice is between not good enough and horrible, I will vote Biden...but man...I donno if I believe he will beat Trump.
On what were her policies better? If anything she stole a lot of he healthcare plan from Bernie. Imo actually Yang had better policies than either of them. Seems like its the other way around bro. She even took that nice PAC money at the end here. I dont disagree, I still believe they are wrong. Biden is the safe choice thats not gonna beat the incumbent. He doesnt motivate people. Im gonna vote for him, but I dont expect him to motivate people to the poll's.
The Biden campaign, through his style of campaigning - notice he never attacked Pete or Amy in any kind of personal way - positioned itself to swoop in when people inevitably started dropping out. It's not like no one knew the calendar in advance. We knew Pete and Amy (and Warren) were going to struggle in SC, and we know people would start dropping out. Bernie (and Warren) and his campaign alienated everyone they could along the way - accusing them of being beholden to billionaires or corrupt or whatnot. So when people inevitably dropped out, Biden was in position to scoop up their endorsements and their voters. That's smart and effective coalition-building. And it's not normal - in 2008, when people started dropping, none of them endorsed Obama or Hillary right away - they all waited months. This was unique to the Biden campaign. And he timed and orchestrated it all for maximum effect. You saw the results yesterday. Bernie, meanwhile, alienated all those of those candidates and their supporters along the way. Not surprisingly, he's still stuck at his 30%. That's an example of not remotely understanding how to grow a voter base and win a primary. There's a reason many of have been repeatedly saying that Bernie would fail as soon as this became a 1-on-1 race.
Do they mean it to be Michelle [Obama]? That's a shockingly large reversal of fortunes on there. Either the original odds were crap or there was a black swan event of some sort.
On literally everything - she had more overall than he did, and they were all well detailed. Hell she spent the last few days whipping up a better coronovirus policy than Trump in addition to everything else. She's the wonk's dream. She's probably one of the few living people who have actually set up an entirely new executive agency. Elizabeth Warren got bogged down talking about the specifics surrounding single payer. Bernie Sanders got bogged down talking about ****ing Fidel Castro. You tell me which one is the policy candidate, and which is the ideologue. Biden did motivate people to vote, btw. Turnout was high. Why? Because they love Joe? No, because they find him broadly acceptable and hate Trump, who motivates more than anything.
Black voters LOVE Biden and I can't figure out why. Biden's debate on legacy of slavery was shocking and racist imo and many others. His record shows strong support and involvement in the Drug War which incarcerates blacks unfairly. Including his stance on weed being a gateway drug, again destroying minorities lives with stupid laws and penalties. Voted for Crime Act, again hurting destroying black communities and creating a prison industrial complex. I mean there is a clear pattern of facking over minorities. Moving on... he banned gays in the military, banned same sex marriage, etc... Supports no funding for rape/incest abortions. Voted to remove student debt from bankruptcy. He's a self proclaimed Zionist. We know what's in his heart/head when it comes to the discriminated groups. I can't for the life of me figure out why blacks support him? He's done nothing to help their community. It can't be as simple and stupid that he is associated with a famous black dude can it?
Modern America is a mixed economy. Like I said, messaging is what matters and Bernie self avowed socialist status is an uphill battle. Bernie probably would have won 2008 easily.
Really?? She had more than he did? Thats news to me. If that were true than I have no idea why were a lot of health care organizations and labor unions endorsing Bernie and not her. If you can give me specific examples, I'd like to see them. She's not a bad candidate, I would have voted for her as my second choice, definitely over Biden. I would definitely feel more comfortable about her in the general election. Man any moron who could put that conversation into context would see that its not a big deal. Not taking aim at you, im just fed up with how word association completely messes with people. Just because he mentions Castro???? Yea it was like that for Hilary 2 years ago and look at what happend. Biden is not gonna have an easy go of it(again i will vote for him).
Joe is a politician. A LONG TIME ONE. There will be policies that change as society evolves. Anyone who has been in Congress for 40 years will have votes that look bad over time. Biden has the benefit of been seen of having Obama's back. He is trusted because he helped Obama get elected.
If that’s how you want to think about it. I view the GOP as the biggest roadblock to healthcare reform so even Biden’s plan is a nudge in the right direction.
Lol. Yes his populist message (which Obama used to beat Hillary) would have been better used during an economic crisis.
If he's the nominee, then I'm voting for him. But I've been realistic on how much of what he wants could actually get done, especially when you consider the likelihood that the Senate remains GOP controlled. He's not as strong down ticket and could cause problems for retaining the House, too. Given a fully GOP Congress, he's not going to get much of anything he wants done.
Have you ever considered asking them? You might find they have a lot more depth and reasoning than you give them credit for.
Um, He was not beating Obama. The Obama Coalition was young AND old, Black AND White. Bernie can't get blacks or older people to vote for him. People don't want a Socialist President. There have been Socialist running before....they got no where.
I mean I was counting on Sanders getting young people to vote and part that was him energizing a whole different bunch of communities and that includes getting people to vote more in congressional. But...given how this turned out...it seems like a moot point.
Interesting, I was thinking evil not "look bad" but I guess people are very forgiving. I'm not when it comes to people treat people.
