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Suns aggressively shopping Eric Bledsoe

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  1. Koperboy

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    Not really. Dragić asked for a trade because he was unhappy standing in the corner, watching Bled and IT running the show and team going nowhere. Suns were happy to get 2 first round picks from Heat, albeit several years down the road. But since Dragic was coming off the All-NBA year, his worth was stll there.
    IT was disgruntled to come from bench and his value was low, so they traded him for peanuts. Bledsoe, disgruntled again and low value. Same with both brothers Morris.
    McDonough doesn't have a clue on how to sell high and buy low. Morey's opposite...
     
  2. sirjesse

    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
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    We might as well get him and play gordon at the three and beard at the four. D'antoni could finally have his hyper drive offense that goes plaid.
     
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  3. J.R.

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    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...oenix-suns-eric-bledsoe-trades-work-sides-nba

    Will the Phoenix Suns get value for Eric Bledsoe?

    After Bledsoe cryptically tweeted, "I Don't wanna be here," on Sunday, Suns GM Ryan McDonough told reporters Monday that he plans to discuss trading the apparently unhappy point guard after sending Bledsoe home from the team.

    As ESPN's Bobby Marks notes, this early in the season is an unusual time for trades, and the pressure to move Bledsoe now gives Phoenix little leverage in negotiations. So can the Suns find a deal that gives them enough in return for a player on one of the league's better contracts or have they already squandered his trade value?

    Let's take a look at three realistic options, as well as why several other teams interested in Bledsoe may not be able to put together a deal that satisfies Phoenix's needs.

    Potential suitor 1: Denver Nuggets

    Suns get: Guard Emmanuel Mudiay and forward Kenneth Faried
    Nuggets get: Bledsoe

    Denver is the most logical Bledsoe destination by a wide margin. After signing Paul Millsap as a free agent this summer, the Nuggets are hoping to return to the playoffs for the first time since firing George Karl in 2013. Denver's weakest position is point guard, where Jamal Murray has star potential but has struggled in two games as a starter since the Nuggets unexpectedly waived veteran Jameer Nelson. Because he could play with Murray in addition to supplanting him as a starter, Bledsoe would be an ideal bridge point guard to help Denver win now.

    The Nuggets could offer Phoenix a handful of young prospects, with Mudiay -- who would be pushed out of the rotation by Bledsoe's arrival -- the easiest to let go. Though he hasn't been much better than Murray early in the season, Mudiay played well in the preseason and is two years removed from being the No. 7 pick of the 2015 draft. At 21, Mudiay would have a chance to develop at his own speed with the Suns' young talent.

    Denver would have to send back additional salary to match Bledsoe's, with Faried the obvious candidate. Faried wants a bigger role than he's played for the Nuggets, and including him would allow Denver to shed some salary next season -- important with Gary Harris' extension kicking in. Given a fresh start in Phoenix, Faried could have some value, though he also would compete with young big men Dragan Bender and Marquese Chriss for playing time.

    This package, without any draft picks included on the Nuggets' end, is probably the bare minimum any other offer would have to beat.

    Potential suitor 2: Orlando Magic

    Suns get: Guards D.J. Augustin, Mario Hezonja and Elfrid Payton
    Magic get: Bledsoe and guard Troy Daniels

    It's unclear whether Orlando would really be interested in swapping point guards with Phoenix, but such a deal would make some sense for both sides. The Magic would get a better shooter and more experienced player at point guard who could help them make a run at a playoff spot. If Orlando's new front office isn't sold on Payton as the team's answer at point guard, not having to make a decision on him as a restricted free agent next summer might also be a bonus.

    The Magic could offer the Suns a couple of interesting young prospects. Despite his poor shooting, Payton has been a triple-double threat at times. At 23, he still has plenty of development ahead of him. And Hezonja was the No. 5 pick in 2015, so despite his ineffective first two seasons in the NBA there's still a chance of Phoenix unlocking his talent as a scorer.

    The Suns would have to take on a bad contract in Augustin, who is signed through 2019-20 at $7.25 million a year. He's the only option to match salary until Shelvin Mack becomes eligible to be traded on December 15. The fact that players signed as free agents this summer cannot yet be traded is among the challenges the Suns face making a fair deal for Bledsoe.

    Potential suitor 3: Cleveland Cavaliers

    Suns get: Guard Iman Shumpert, center Ante Zizic, protected 2021 first-round pick
    Cavaliers get: Bledsoe

    Bledsoe has long been linked to Cleveland because he's represented by Klutch Sports Management, but he also would fit well with the Cavaliers. Derrick Rose's sprained ankle has exposed how thin Cleveland is at point guard with Isaiah Thomas sidelined by a hip injury, and even once Thomas returns Bledsoe is a better fit defensively to match up with the Golden State Warriors in a possible NBA Finals rematch.

    While the Cavaliers have to think about a possible future without LeBron James, parting with Zizic and a first-round pick is reasonable to maximize their chances of winning a championship with James, and Bledsoe would still have some value as an expiring contract next summer if Cleveland wanted to move on. This incarnation of a trade would cost the Cavaliers in terms of luxury tax, however. It's possible a larger deal could be worked out that would send Channing Frye back to Phoenix and add Troy Daniels to Bledsoe.

    The bigger question, of course, is whether the Suns would prefer a deal that doesn't bring them any young point guard in return. They'd have to really like Zizic -- or wing Cedi Osman, who could be the young player in the trade instead -- to choose Cleveland as a partner.

    Other possible suitors

    Detroit Pistons:
    Bledsoe would be a great fit in Detroit, but realistically the only way a trade makes sense is if Phoenix is willing to do a challenge trade of Bledsoe for Reggie Jackson. That seems unlikely.

    LA Clippers: Bledsoe could fit well with the team that drafted him. However, nearly all the salary the Clippers could offer in return is in the form of rotation pieces, and their young talent doesn't seem likely to hold much appeal to the Suns.

    Milwaukee Bucks: It makes sense that the Bucks have shown interest in Bledsoe, as reported by Marc Stein of the New York Times. His defensive versatility would fit perfectly in Milwaukee's system. The problem is that unless the Bucks are willing to give up Greg Monroe, all their other matching salary (Matthew Dellavedova, John Henson and Mirza Teletovic) would be unpalatable for Phoenix. So Milwaukee would probably have to offer multiple first-round picks to compete with the other possible suitors.

    New York Knicks: Bledsoe could serve as a bridge to rookie Frank Ntilikina in New York. But if the Knicks are unwilling to deal Ntilikina or Willy Hernangomez, as ESPN's Ian Begley notes, there's not much else of interest on their roster.

    Philadelphia 76ers: The Sixers are an intriguing wild card if they see Bledsoe as a long-term starting option. That said, they'd surely have to add a first-round pick to an offer of Jerryd Bayless and Jahlil Okafor to compete in terms of value. So more likely Philadelphia will just wait out free agency next summer, when the 76ers could add a 3-and-D guard without giving up a pick in return.​
     
  4. J.R.

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    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...at-the-suns-front-office-should-consider-now/

    Indiana Pacers
    Pacers receive:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Thaddeus Young, 2018 first-round pick (protected 1-20 in 2018, 1-14 in 2019, 1-5 in 2020), Chicago's 2018 second-round pick.

    Denver Nuggets
    Nuggets receive:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Kenneth Faried, Emmanuel Mudiay

    New York Knicks
    Knicks receive:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Enes Kanter, 2018 first-round pick (protected 1-12, 18-30), Chicago's 2018 second-rounder

    Milwaukee Bucks
    Bucks receive:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Jabari Parker, Matthew Dellavedova

    Los Angeles Clippers
    Clippers receive:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Austin Rivers, Lou Williams, Sam Dekker, second-round pick

    Charlotte Hornets
    Two deals. One they should do that they won't, and one they might do but they shouldn't.

    What they should do:
    Hornets receive:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Dwight Howard

    Otherwise:
    Hornets receive:
    Tyson Chandler, Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Marvin Williams

    Detroit Pistons
    Pistons receive:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Reggie Jackson

    New Orleans Pelicans
    Before we look at a proposal, just a quick note: Jrue Holiday is a better fit with this roster. He's a great off-ball shooter, a great defender, and maintenance personality. Also, he can't be dealt until January 14, and he makes over $12 million more per year than Bledsoe so the math is difficult. Stop suggesting this trade.

    Pelicans receive: Eric Bledsoe
    Suns receive: Omer Asik, E'waun Moore, 2019 top-20 protected first-round pick

    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Suns receive:
    Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, the Cavaliers' 2021 first round pick, top-15 protected
    Cavaliers receive: Eric Bledsoe​
     
  5. today

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    I know how this will end... Teams will make their best offers and then at the last second, Phoenix will trade him to OKC for nothing.
     
  6. Rockets4Life13

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    @J.R. i think you overestimate Bledsoe's trade value at this point. GM said he won't be with the Suns anymore so they HAVE to deal him very soon.
    That's like the Melo/Phil Jackson story, they will have to deal him for something soon and i dont expect the offers to be that great.
     
  7. zeeshan2

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    isn't he made of glass doe?
     
  9. J.R.

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    Huh? o_O

    I haven't proposed any trades. One article was from Kevin Pelton/ESPN & another from Matt Moore/CBS Sports.
     
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  10. da_juice

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    OKC trades Melo for Josh Jackson, Bledsoe and Chandler. Melo retires in protest
     
  11. Rockets4Life13

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    Oh sorry, i didnt see the article links on top. My bad!
     
  12. arabrocket

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    Tbh man I always knew Gordon was hella player but was in bad situation in NOLA. So I would have picked Gordon.
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    And Booker, just to be safe.
     
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  14. Audioout

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    Still expect to see Tyson Chandler and Jared Dudley traded for Ryno and filler sometime this season.
     
  15. da_juice

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    That would only make sense if we trade Capela and one of our forwards for another big piece. But I could see it (or a three way trade where Capela and Dudley go out and we get a wing player or power forward back- putting Ariza off the bench or at the 4).
     
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    I'm not sure why the Suns would want Faried, they've already problems to give minutes to Chriss, Bender and probably Warren at the 4, getting Faried won't help them much unless they know they can trade him in few weeks...
     
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  18. Audioout

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    I don't understand what you mean.

    Paul
    Harden/ Gordon
    Ariza/ Dudlley
    Tucker/ Mbah a Moute
    Capela/ Chandler

    If anything we need another guard still.
     
  19. tmactoyao

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    this was either towards the end of the game or after the game ended... Bledsoe a real one
     
  20. Williamson

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    The team I'd hate to see him go to is the San Antonio Spurs. I feel like they'd completely resurrect his career and he'd all of a sudden be an MVP candidate there. That's how things seem to go in San Antonio. That damned organization can't seem to do wrong.
     

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