Strategic Advantages of Acquiring Paul Millsap Mid-Season

so you feel better after insulting me? Vole's existence as a rocket has been forgettable that I could barely remember his surname accurately

 

As a second star, I don't think Milsap fits the bill. But as an asset, he could work. A package of him and Asik could be hard to turn down for a lot of GMs.

 

I would do this trade in heartbeat, but I trouble seeing Utah trading a starter for 2 player bench players.

They have Gordon Hayward & Marvin Williams at SF. From what I've seen I like Hayward and he shooting 3pt at 38% this year.

Currently, Randy Foye and Jamaal Tinsley is starting backcourt.
I not going mention any trade, but Utah hurting most at Guard position. I think Utah need a PG the most with Mo Williams out since Dec 22.

 

Slows the game down IMO.

Need a stretch 4.

Ryan Anderson or Kevin Love... Tho neither will happen.

Prefer Aldridge tho.

 

As a die hard Rockets fan living in Utah, let me tell you about Millsap.

His 3 point shooting has gotten better every year. He is actually a pretty good 3 pt shooter although in the Utah offense they play him beneath the 3pt line mostly, setting screens, working the baseline, hanging around for offensive boards.

He would be at least as good as PPatt in terms of 3 point shooting.

He is a CLUTCH player, he has hit a lot of big shots late in games.

He is a winning player, plays hard, no attitude, tough nosed kinda guy.

He is basically a cross between Mario Elie and Carl Landry. Mario Elie because he has kind of an ugly jumper but he can hit big shots and 3's and does the Junkyard Dog work, and Landry because he quietly goes about his business and is more effective and valued than stats would show.

Millsap is not a superstar, but he could be an all star type player on a team that wins 50+ games.

He is a very good defender and smart team player.

He is definitely on a different level than Patterson and Morris. Plus he steals the ball a lot for a 4, has quick hands, and runs the floor very well. He excelled running alongside DWill for several seasons.

If I were to rank Patterson and Morris on a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of being NBA PF's I would rank them the same, a 6. I would rate Millsap as an 8.

This is how I would break down NBA PF's, in general

10s
Dirk (when healthy)
Duncan

9s
Love
Josh Smith
Zach Randolph
Ibaka
Griffin

8s
Millsap
Aldridge
David Lee
Faried
Bosh
Gason (usually)
KG

7s
Boozer
Ryan Anderson
David West
Scola

6s
Patterson
Morris
Hickson
Landry

I put Millsap in the 8 range and I definitely like him better than Aldridge on the Rockets.

For all you Rockets fans suggesting Aldridge, do you realize that the Rockets strategy is basically to shoot ZERO long 2's, and focus on layups and 3's?

All Aldridge shoots is long 2s.

Millsap would be a very good pickup for us, and because of the savings we have on Parsons contract, we would still have money left over to do a S&T and ship him out over the summer or even resign him and sign another good player.

 

Morey is not going to settle for anything less than all-star big man and neither is Leslie. We'll probably wait till the summer unless an elite guy becomes available. I don't think even if Morey wants Millsap, he can sell it to Alexander.

 

i have seen him get destroyed by athletic fowards. Milsaps defense in the paint is as bad as pattersons

 

loves in the 8 range also. low efficiency scorer, not alot of post play etc etc12 rebounds per game = asik. injury prone

 

Yes if you want to be a pretender...He's nice but not at the level to be put in the same boat of Harden as part of 'big x', but this summer his new contract would be at that level(very likely to be near max multi year deal).

Our pf's are young and improving every month, so it's not wise to be tied with second tier star with near max money. For that matter, it's not easy to sign and trade him if he doesn't perform well post trade.

Besides, we are looking for or developing stretch fours.

 

i also can stand a PF thats smaller than the small fowards on our team.

 

Unless the Rockets are good enough to contend this year(extremely unlikely), there is absolutely nothing to be gained by trading for Millsap at the deadline. The only reason you would do so is to have someone's birds rights. Utah will not re-sign Millsap, so it's pointless in this regards. Even his trade value will not equal to whatever the Rockets need to trade for him in the first place. As for Millsap vs Aldridge, I will trust the Rockets brain trust on that one.

Personally, I still want a perimeter guy because I think two of Morris/PPat/Jones/DMo, whoever don't get traded, are good enough to be bigs along with Asik/Smith. The ones that fit and potentially available: Josh Smith(can defend multiple positions and versatile), Iguodala(who likely activates his ETO), and Granger(whom the Pacers likely want to dump). A pure PF, especially an undersized one, IMO is not worth it. The Rockets simply like to dictate matchups too much to make themselves so inflexible at the position.

 

Utah still fighting for playoff spot - I don't see them helping another Western team for pieces that don't really help them get closer to the playoffs.

Wouldn't Millsap for Jose Calderon (expiring contract also) make most sense for both teams? He is available for trades I sure there will be other suitors .

 

Well my question is why do we have to make a move at the deadline, as opposed to waiting and doing your move in the summer? Everyone's trade value increases during the deadline, and it flatlines during the summer.

The Rockets aren't in any hurry to do anything as other people have said this is already the youngest team in the league, we can afford to wait. While it is true that Millsap can be flipped for a trade, if we just wait it out maybe we can get somebody better for much cheaper, maybe we can convince DH to go here for free and sign him with just capspace, you never know.

Unless a really killer deal comes along I'd really just wait for that max capspace.

 

Here are the player ratings on a per possession basis over the last 2+ seasons according to xRAPM (only considering players playing > 10000 total possessions). Both Millsap and Aldridge do pretty well, though these ratings like Millsap a bit more.

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[B]Rk    Name                OFF    DEF    NET    POSS[/B]
1     LeBron James        +6.6   +1.9   +8.6   24966
2     Dwight Howard       +1.6   +6.7   +8.3   23096
3     Chris Paul          +6.5   +1.0   +7.5   22927
4     Tim Duncan          +1.3   +5.2   +6.5   18430
5     Manu Ginobili       +5.8   +0.5   +6.4   15498
6     Dirk Nowitzki       +4.3   +2.0   +6.3   17973
7     Dwyane Wade         +5.2   +0.5   +5.6   20364
8     Kevin Durant        +4.5   +1.0   +5.5   26577
9     Kevin Garnett       +0.5   +4.9   +5.4   18636
10    Josh Smith          +0.5   +4.8   +5.3   22250
11    Kevin Love          +3.8   +1.3   +5.1   21226
12    Nene Hilario        +1.1   +3.8   +4.9   14880
13    Steve Nash          +6.2   -1.6   +4.6   18455
14    Paul Millsap        +1.7   +2.7   +4.5   21653
15    Pau Gasol           +2.3   +2.2   +4.5   23867
16    Tyson Chandler      +0.3   +4.1   +4.4   19661
17    Andre Iguodala      +0.9   +3.5   +4.4   22090
18    Andrew Bogut        -1.1   +5.4   +4.3   10205
19    Marc Gasol          +0.2   +4.0   +4.2   22513
20    Joakim Noah         +1.1   +2.9   +4.0   17527
21    Blake Griffin       +2.5   +1.4   +3.9   24874
22    Andrew Bynum        +0.7   +3.0   +3.7   13561
23    Derrick Rose        +4.7   -1.2   +3.6   16673
24    Ryan Anderson       +3.6   -0.2   +3.4   16525
25    Jason Kidd          +1.3   +2.0   +3.3   18547
26    Amir Johnson        +0.4   +2.8   +3.3   15415
27    LaMarcus Aldridge   +1.8   +1.4   +3.2   23272
28    Kyle Lowry          +2.4   +0.8   +3.2   18146
29    Gerald Wallace      -0.1   +3.2   +3.2   20844
30    Marcus Camby        -1.7   +4.7   +3.1   10947
31    James Harden        +3.9   -0.8   +3.0   20668
32    Rajon Rondo         +2.3   +0.7   +3.0   20790
33    Stephen Curry       +3.1   -0.1   +3.0   17517
34    Danny Granger       +2.0   +0.9   +2.9   18826
35    Russell Westbrook   +3.8   -0.9   +2.9   24624
36    Mike Conley         +2.6   +0.2   +2.8   22773
37    Paul Pierce         +1.6   +1.2   +2.8   22238
38    Zach Randolph       +2.2   +0.6   +2.8   16880
39    Omer Asik           -1.4   +4.1   +2.7   11084
40    Chris Bosh          +0.5   +2.2   +2.7   21920
41    Luol Deng           +0.2   +2.4   +2.6   24512
42    Kobe Bryant         +3.8   -1.2   +2.5   23804
43    Andrei Kirilenko    +0.9   +1.6   +2.5   10827
44    Danilo Gallinari    +1.4   +0.9   +2.4   17767
45    DeAndre Jordan      -0.6   +3.0   +2.4   17619
46    Roy Hibbert         -0.4   +2.7   +2.4   19571
47    Deron Williams      +4.9   -2.6   +2.3   20996
48    Anderson Varejao    +0.2   +2.1   +2.3   10253
49    Elton Brand         -0.4   +2.6   +2.2   19443
50    Taj Gibson          -0.7   +2.9   +2.2   13394
51    Lamar Odom          +0.2   +1.9   +2.1   16161
52    Emeka Okafor        -1.7   +3.7   +2.1   13946
53    Tony Allen          -1.1   +3.1   +2.0   13999
54    Chauncey Billups    +3.5   -1.5   +2.0   11625
55    Carmelo Anthony     +2.8   -0.9   +1.9   21601
56    Nick Collison       +0.4   +1.5   +1.9   13057
57    JaVale McGee        -0.2   +2.1   +1.8   16957
58    Matt Bonner         +1.8   -0.0   +1.8   11801
59    Tony Parker         +2.3   -0.5   +1.8   21195
60    Serge Ibaka         -1.0   +2.7   +1.7   19313
61    David West          +0.6   +1.1   +1.7   20326
62    Al Horford          +0.6   +1.1   +1.6   15273
63    Andre Miller        +2.6   -1.0   +1.6   19873
64    Ersan Ilyasova      +1.2   +0.3   +1.6   14774
65    Thaddeus Young      +1.1   +0.4   +1.5   19150
66    Kris Humphries      -0.2   +1.7   +1.5   18072
67    Devin Harris        +2.8   -1.4   +1.5   16874
68    Ekpe Udoh           -1.3   +2.7   +1.4   11170
69    Jared Dudley        +1.1   +0.2   +1.4   19958
70    Shane Battier       -0.0   +1.4   +1.4   17571
71    Samuel Dalembert    -1.7   +3.0   +1.4   14229
72    Rodney Stuckey      +2.8   -1.4   +1.4   17325
73    Jason Thompson      +0.6   +0.7   +1.3   17110
74    Marcin Gortat       -0.7   +2.0   +1.3   19926
75    Chuck Hayes         -0.7   +2.0   +1.3   14339
76    Mike Dunleavy       +1.0   +0.3   +1.3   14723
77    Paul George         -0.5   +1.7   +1.2   16796
78    Brendan Haywood     -1.7   +2.9   +1.2   11662
79    Ty Lawson           +3.0   -1.8   +1.2   21172
80    Greg Monroe         +0.5   +0.6   +1.2   20020
81    Metta WorldPeace    -0.7   +1.8   +1.2   19824
82    Vince Carter        +0.5   +0.7   +1.1   16859
83    Joe Johnson         +2.7   -1.6   +1.1   21704
84    Dorell Wright       +0.3   +0.7   +1.0   21790
85    Kevin Martin        +3.3   -2.3   +1.0   18677
86    Amare Stoudemire    +1.4   -0.3   +1.0   17510
87    Louis Williams      +2.9   -1.9   +1.0   16184
88    Al Jefferson        +0.9   +0.0   +1.0   22956
89    Raymond Felton      +1.9   -1.0   +0.9   21819
90    J.R. Smith          +1.7   -0.8   +0.9   15392
91    David Lee           +1.2   -0.3   +0.9   23336
92    George Hill         +1.4   -0.6   +0.8   16867
93    Hedo Turkoglu       +0.5   +0.2   +0.7   16174
94    Ronnie Brewer       -1.6   +2.3   +0.7   15173
95    Jose Calderon       +2.5   -1.9   +0.7   18162
96    Landry Fields       +0.1   +0.6   +0.7   18269
97    Matt Barnes         -0.1   +0.7   +0.7   12566
98    Jrue Holiday        +0.9   -0.2   +0.6   23502
99    Channing Frye       -0.1   +0.8   +0.6   16434
100   DeMarcus Cousins    -0.3   +0.9   +0.6   19990
101   Brook Lopez         +0.4   +0.1   +0.5   13955
102   Rudy Gay            -0.1   +0.5   +0.5   21218
103   Luc MbahaMoute      -1.5   +1.9   +0.4   13218
104   Antawn Jamison      +1.5   -1.1   +0.3   17431
105   Wilson Chandler     -0.7   +1.0   +0.3   10759
106   Chase Budinger      +0.9   -0.7   +0.3   12336
107   Jeff Teague         +0.7   -0.4   +0.3   15413
108   Josh McRoberts      -0.1   +0.3   +0.2   10530
109   Ray Allen           +1.2   -1.0   +0.2   19561
110   Zaza Pachulia       -1.3   +1.4   +0.1   13171
111   Derrick Favors      -1.4   +1.5   +0.1   13190
112   John Wall           +0.3   -0.4   -0.1   19560
113   Jameer Nelson       +1.6   -1.8   -0.1   18093
114   Luis Scola          -0.4   +0.2   -0.1   20967
115   Thabo Sefolosha     -2.4   +2.2   -0.1   15139
116   Brandon Jennings    +1.1   -1.3   -0.2   21850
117   Wesley Matthews     +0.5   -0.7   -0.2   21805
118   Chris Kaman         -2.1   +1.9   -0.2   11325
119   Kyle Korver         +1.0   -1.2   -0.2   14321
120   Robin Lopez         -0.9   +0.6   -0.2   10321
121   Carlos Boozer       -0.2   -0.1   -0.2   17650
122   Jason Richardson    +0.6   -0.9   -0.3   19347
123   Boris Diaw          -0.9   +0.7   -0.3   18926
124   Beno Udrih          +0.4   -0.7   -0.3   16122
125   Goran Dragic        +1.3   -1.7   -0.4   15259
126   Marvin Williams     -0.5   +0.0   -0.4   15238
127   Earl Watson         -0.6   +0.1   -0.5   10895
128   Ramon Sessions      +2.1   -2.6   -0.5   18011
129   Grant Hill          -1.1   +0.6   -0.5   14912
130   Andray Blatche      -1.1   +0.6   -0.5   13224
131   DeJuan Blair        -0.9   +0.4   -0.5   13545
132   C.J. Miles          -0.5   -0.1   -0.6   14021
133   Corey Brewer        -0.9   +0.3   -0.6   14299
134   Anthony Parker      -1.0   +0.4   -0.6   13068
135   Jason Terry         +1.7   -2.4   -0.7   20823
136   Al Harrington       -0.1   -0.6   -0.7   13582
137   Spencer Hawes       -1.5   +0.7   -0.8   12769
138   Jamal Crawford      +2.0   -2.8   -0.8   18493
139   Rashard Lewis       -1.2   +0.3   -0.8   10862
140   Monta Ellis         +0.6   -1.4   -0.9   25405
141   Jason Maxiell       -2.1   +1.2   -0.9   12207
142   Nikola Pekovic      -0.2   -0.7   -0.9   11591
143   Richard Jefferson   -1.3   +0.3   -0.9   16874
144   Carlos Delfino      -0.7   -0.3   -0.9   14191
145   Mario Chalmers      -1.3   +0.3   -1.0   15938
146   Luke Ridnour        +0.6   -1.6   -1.0   18783
147   Arron Afflalo       -0.0   -1.0   -1.0   21660
148   Trevor Ariza        -2.0   +0.9   -1.0   16077
149   John Salmons        -1.7   +0.7   -1.1   17438
150   Nicolas Batum       +0.7   -1.8   -1.1   20380
151   Joel Anthony        -3.1   +2.0   -1.1   11461
152   Tyreke Evans        -0.6   -0.5   -1.1   18812
153   Jodie Meeks         +0.1   -1.3   -1.1   16279
154   O.J. Mayo           +0.6   -1.7   -1.1   18494
155   Courtney Lee        +0.1   -1.2   -1.1   16129
156   Carl Landry         +0.5   -1.6   -1.2   14394
157   Chandler Parsons    -0.9   -0.4   -1.2   11471
158   James Johnson       -2.2   +0.9   -1.2   11222
159   Tayshaun Prince     +0.1   -1.4   -1.3   21209
160   Alonzo Gee          -1.3   -0.0   -1.3   15442
161   Glen Davis          -2.1   +0.7   -1.4   16774
162   Omri Casspi         -0.9   -0.5   -1.4   12905
163   Marcus Thornton     +0.7   -2.1   -1.4   16639
164   Daniel Gibson       -0.3   -1.1   -1.4   13114
165   Al-Farouq Aminu     -2.4   +1.0   -1.4   13415
166   C.J. Watson         -0.3   -1.2   -1.4   10357
167   Klay Thompson       +0.2   -1.7   -1.5   10441
168   Stephen Jackson     -0.6   -0.9   -1.5   15497
169   Greivis Vasquez     +0.3   -1.9   -1.5   13433
170   Andrea Bargnani     +0.7   -2.2   -1.6   15540
171   Brandon Bass        -1.9   +0.3   -1.6   17410
172   Tyler Hansbrough    -0.8   -0.8   -1.6   13336
173   Jarrett Jack        +0.2   -1.8   -1.6   15489
174   Caron Butler        -1.0   -0.6   -1.6   13010
175   Nate Robinson       +1.1   -2.7   -1.6   10746
176   Kendrick Perkins    -4.1   +2.4   -1.7   12681
177   Eric Bledsoe        -1.5   -0.2   -1.7   11029
178   Derek Fisher        -1.7   +0.1   -1.7   15403
179   Ed Davis            -1.9   +0.2   -1.7   14203
180   J.J. Redick         +0.9   -2.7   -1.7   16105
181   Toney Douglas       +0.3   -2.0   -1.7   12838
182   Gerald Henderson    -1.0   -0.8   -1.8   14993
183   Kemba Walker        -1.0   -0.8   -1.8   10869
184   Gordon Hayward      -0.4   -1.5   -1.9   15674
185   DeMar DeRozan       -0.7   -1.2   -1.9   23566
186   D.J. Augustin       +1.5   -3.5   -1.9   17214
187   Jerryd Bayless      +0.7   -2.7   -2.0   10040
188   Shawn Marion        -2.4   +0.4   -2.0   18832
189   Shaun Livingston    -1.6   -0.5   -2.1   10146
190   Brandon Rush        -1.1   -1.0   -2.1   13636
191   Michael Beasley     -1.4   -0.8   -2.2   16557
192   Darren Collison     +0.1   -2.3   -2.2   20321
193   Anthony Morrow      +0.1   -2.4   -2.3   14099
194   J.J. Hickson        -1.8   -0.5   -2.3   16725
195   Jose Barea          +0.5   -2.8   -2.3   12440
196   Wesley Johnson      -1.8   -0.6   -2.4   14415
197   Marco Belinelli     -0.4   -2.1   -2.5   17152
198   Dante Cunningham    -2.6   -0.0   -2.6   12660
199   Martell Webster     -0.8   -1.8   -2.6   11627
200   Mike Bibby          -0.7   -1.9   -2.6   10629
201   Leandro Barbosa     +0.3   -2.9   -2.6   11690
202   Evan Turner         -2.0   -0.6   -2.6   17779
203   Jeff Green          -1.3   -1.4   -2.7   11916
204   Brandon Knight      -1.7   -1.1   -2.7   12035
205   Patrick Patterson   -1.7   -1.1   -2.8   11714
206   Travis Outlaw       -1.8   -1.0   -2.8   11390
207   Steve Blake         -1.3   -1.6   -2.9   11326
208   Kirk Hinrich        -1.9   -1.0   -2.9   15454
209   Nick Young          -0.7   -2.2   -2.9   17193
210   Ben Gordon          +0.0   -3.0   -3.0   15350
211   Mo Williams         +0.0   -3.1   -3.0   15303
212   Shannon Brown       -1.3   -2.0   -3.4   14803
213   Gary Neal           +0.3   -3.7   -3.4   13756
214   Randy Foye          -1.0   -2.7   -3.7   15514
215   Jordan Crawford     -0.5   -3.4   -3.9   14055
216   Wayne Ellington     -2.1   -1.9   -4.0   10249
217   Willie Green        -2.3   -2.1   -4.4   11600
218   Raja Bell           -2.7   -2.0   -4.8   11049

 

Les Alexander would be wildcard. Given our youth, I would let the play out year with current rotations. But if we are flirting with losing playoff sport, he might demand Morey make a move.

 

I'd rather have tim duncan.