[Stein]Rockets one of VERY interested teams to steal Steve Nash

I'm starting to wonder if you ever actually watch the Rockets? The Rockets are an uptempo team that looks to push it at every opportunity.. which is exactly the type of system that Nash has excelled in.

" But we run a high post and a motion offense!"

When we slow it down, we do run some high post motion offense. But often, it results in a pick-and-roll with a guard and one of our big men on the perimeter.. which is also what Steve Nash excels in.

When you have a player like Steve Nash, you adjust (not change, because we're pretty damn similar already) the offensive sets to best utilize his skill set.

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Bottom line on the Nash deal.. if you think we can get him and legitimately compete for the next three years with the pieces we have left, you absolutely do it. That said, I very much doubt he is available.

 

Brooks + filler?

 

I agree with you about his age issue.

That said, please wake up. We have already entered the post-Yao era. Everyone can see we are now an up-tempo team. Steve Nash's game fits this team to a t.

I have said it before and I have to say it again here. With Steve Nash, Jordan Hill will become as good as Amare Stoudemire. The only difference is Jordan Hill will give us much much better defense.

 

The more I think about this, it's a tough call and you would basically pick between trading off for an exciting present, and selling future potential.

Nash is special and since his game is not based on athleticism, he would last at least 4 more years in this age of the ageless guard (Jason Kidd, Ray Allen. Shooters can have longer careers due to less physical styles, and hand-check rules are promoting guard longevity)

We would essentially become like those Suns teams, we would win many games and be exciting but without defensive forces we would always come up short to winning a championship. It would be fun though, and we would be better than we are now.

On the other hand, we would trade away youth (brooks etc.) and it would be one or more less of a player we could potentially trade to get a higher draft pick, a younger star etc. It would be a poor long term move for the future. And really, Lowry has shown he is a 7-8 assist per game player with good defense and rebounding. Our two headed PG monster combined is probably just a little short of the overall impact Nash brings by himself.

But Nash's contract is very good, and about just a little bit more than what Brooks might ask for next year. And we would still be flexible enough to bring in defensive players. So yeah, I say go for it (if the suns will play ball).

 

OH look who it is...Mr Lets Rebuild...who now wants to pursue Steve Nash.

 

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Along with the Blazers...they always want who we're after.

 

i love being a homer as much as the next guy but....really? i mean really?

also, i am still curious why nash would want to come to the rockets. imo phx isn't just gonna trade him to a team he doesn't want to go to. they are under the luxury tax and aren't going to be in a bad salary position next year if they keep nash. this just seems like media speculation since they just made that big trade.

 

I guess attacking me is better than admitting you were wrong about our offense. It doesn't make you any less wrong though.

I want to rebuild because the present team is not good enough to win a championship and none of our core three are good enough to carry us. Arguing to trade for Iguodala or Gerald Wallace does not fix the problem of not having someone that can take over and win you games. Steve Nash can do that.

IF we can trade for Steve Nash and still have enough pieces to legitimately compete for a championship, then I am all for it. It's not that hard to follow along, but I know you're doing your best.

 

Hopefully the deal is for Nash and Gortart.

That said, i would be pretty happy with Nash alone, this guy is still as quick as anyone out there on the court, he is able to shoot over 50% from the field and 40% from 3 and rarely misses any clutch free throws. One of those special players that get better with age.

 

Well I guess that's one way to keep the Suns from beating us every freaking time we play them.

At least Les will look past that Nash broke up with Baby Mama just one day after she was Fetus Mama.

 

Just to add, I don't really give a rat's *** anymore that he can't defend anyone, it is not like defense is required to be a starter on this team.

 

doesn't really make any sense for nash to come here

 

BS on two accounts:

Nash only wants to go to a definite championship contender.
Nash has a trade kicker clause in his contract.

If Yao were uninjured, I could see this working, but now, not so much... Morey's got a different deal working, and this is just another one of his misdirection techniques...

 

If a Nash deal were to take place this would be my preference also. Unfortunately, teams want Gortat for a reason and Phoenix just so happens to be terrible on the boards. I have a strong feeling he's there to stay.

 

I am not attacking you, I never did. The only thing I did was draw attention to your indecisiveness. You are the one coming off with douchebag remarks like this one. But I won't stoop to your level mr LTF, because I am better than that.

I am consistant in my beliefs. I have said from the get go that we do not need a dominant PG because our system is not built that way. I said it with Lowry and I am saying it now with Nash. I also said we should slowly add pieces to be competitive from here moving forward, which is EXACTLY WHAT THIS TYPE OF MOVE IS BTW. But I am not for making some panic Otis Smith all in move nowm to to drum up excitement.

Adding Nash and losing nothing from our roster does not make us a contender, much less losing whatever it costs to attain him. So my point stand. Sets us back 2-3 extra years for no reason.

YOU however, admantly disagreed, you said we needed to sell off pieces and build through the draft. Get that franchise player that we could BUILD around. Bad news friend, you dont build around a 37 year old player. You are star struck and thats your flaw.

 

Adding Nash IS rebuilding -- unless your definition of "rebuild" means "redo the roster using only young players." Bringing Nash on board and pulling a deal near the trade deadline for a 2nd-tier star rebuilds AND puts us back into contention.

 

EXACTLY....every NBA player knows what Nash can make a chimp play good Baskebtall....

so playing with Nash could mean for the star to come....that his stats and performance skyrocket (and more important, his star status and potential future contract)...

At least for me, Nash would be a pretty good incentive to bring another statrs into the Rockets, if you see it this way,....

 

I'd LOVE to see Nash in red for the next few years.

To the detractors citing our (possible) need to completely rebuild: are you talking 5-year plan here? Do you not see Nash being 100% a contributor to the goals of this team till the 2013 season no matter what state we're in? I do.

Rox aren't in such a bad way that we need to be thinking Championship 2015 and dismissing (soon to be declining?) elite players. Nash wouldn't make us instant title contenders, but he'd put us very close.

 

Question, you trade for Nash at a relatively low cost, would then trading for Melo make perfect sense? I'm sure Melo would love to play with Nash even at his advanced age and it would give the Rox a dynamite 1-2 punch. This might also give you a punchers chance of keeping him here long term. Just thinking out loud, not sure how it gets done but if possible...